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	<title>Comments on: Mike Huckabee Vs. Fred Thompson On Pro-Life Issue</title>
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		<title>By: David Shedlock</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/11/18/mike-huckabee-vs-fred-thompson-on-pro-life-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-65708</link>
		<dc:creator>David Shedlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very disturbing that Fred Thompson had no opinion on the case of Terri Schiavo. He must have been sleeping. Federalism can never replace a man&#039;s moral obligation to do all he can to protect life.  If the constitution won&#039;t let a man save a woman being starved to death it isn&#039;t worth fighting for.  Thankfully, that is not the case here.  There are many things a president could have done to save her life and stayed within the bounds of the US Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very disturbing that Fred Thompson had no opinion on the case of Terri Schiavo. He must have been sleeping. Federalism can never replace a man&#8217;s moral obligation to do all he can to protect life.  If the constitution won&#8217;t let a man save a woman being starved to death it isn&#8217;t worth fighting for.  Thankfully, that is not the case here.  There are many things a president could have done to save her life and stayed within the bounds of the US Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and knock yourself out folks, abortion will not be an issue come November when it will be Hillary vs. Huckabee.  Mike has the most solid record on this issue and will win Iowa because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and knock yourself out folks, abortion will not be an issue come November when it will be Hillary vs. Huckabee.  Mike has the most solid record on this issue and will win Iowa because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.prolifestance.com Know Where Your Candidate Stands On the Issues Relating to Life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.prolifestance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.prolifestance.com</a> Know Where Your Candidate Stands On the Issues Relating to Life</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can have 50 different interpretations of what is right with no real problem.  The federal government would still have the ability to ban women from traveling from a state to another state, nation, or Indian tribe in order to procure an abortion.  According to the 14th Amendment they could also demand the state gave every child had a due process of law before being deprived of their right to life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can have 50 different interpretations of what is right with no real problem.  The federal government would still have the ability to ban women from traveling from a state to another state, nation, or Indian tribe in order to procure an abortion.  According to the 14th Amendment they could also demand the state gave every child had a due process of law before being deprived of their right to life.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Frederalism is  grand, but everyone keeps glossing over the point that Fred ALSO OPPOSES A STATE BANBAN IN HIS STATE IF ROE IS OVERTURNED. Go read the MTP transcript. Refusing to support a state ban has nothing to do with Federalism. Fred is just using that as a smokescreen.
 So while Fred may profess to be personally pro-life, he is &quot;effectively&quot; pro-choice.

While Huckabee is pro-life personally and politically, he is more liberal than Bush and nearing HIllary-lite on taxes and immigration and nanny-statism.

Romney is pro-life, supports the HLA and he is conservative on taxes and immigration.

Romney has all three legs of the stool. He wins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Frederalism is  grand, but everyone keeps glossing over the point that Fred ALSO OPPOSES A STATE BANBAN IN HIS STATE IF ROE IS OVERTURNED. Go read the MTP transcript. Refusing to support a state ban has nothing to do with Federalism. Fred is just using that as a smokescreen.<br />
 So while Fred may profess to be personally pro-life, he is &#8220;effectively&#8221; pro-choice.</p>
<p>While Huckabee is pro-life personally and politically, he is more liberal than Bush and nearing HIllary-lite on taxes and immigration and nanny-statism.</p>
<p>Romney is pro-life, supports the HLA and he is conservative on taxes and immigration.</p>
<p>Romney has all three legs of the stool. He wins.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Waters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line: no amendment to ban abortion will ever pass. Most people favor abortion&#039;s legality at elast in some cases.An amendment returning the matter to the states, on the other hand, would attract the support of the vast majority of the American people, who want to see abbanned for most reasons, but not all.

Secondly, the Constitution isn&#039;t silent on slavery, either. It actually endorses it.

Third, that &quot;Hickabee&quot; business is really distasteful. Whether you like the guy or not, that sort of thing reminds me uncomfortably of the substitution of ad hominems and silly nicknames for reasoned argument the Democrats and Lefties have been using against the President for the past seven years. I hate to see Republicans descend to their level- especially to attack one of our own.

Personally, I&#039;m a Thompson supporter- but one very disturbed by his willingness to let Cruzan V. Director, or that portion of it which legally defines food and water as &quot;medical treatment,&quot; stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line: no amendment to ban abortion will ever pass. Most people favor abortion&#8217;s legality at elast in some cases.An amendment returning the matter to the states, on the other hand, would attract the support of the vast majority of the American people, who want to see abbanned for most reasons, but not all.</p>
<p>Secondly, the Constitution isn&#8217;t silent on slavery, either. It actually endorses it.</p>
<p>Third, that &#8220;Hickabee&#8221; business is really distasteful. Whether you like the guy or not, that sort of thing reminds me uncomfortably of the substitution of ad hominems and silly nicknames for reasoned argument the Democrats and Lefties have been using against the President for the past seven years. I hate to see Republicans descend to their level- especially to attack one of our own.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m a Thompson supporter- but one very disturbed by his willingness to let Cruzan V. Director, or that portion of it which legally defines food and water as &#8220;medical treatment,&#8221; stand.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Pippin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Pippin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred gets it.  He understands that the most effective way to deal with abortion is through the states.  The Federal Government will NEVER be able to agree on this.  Just be realistic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred gets it.  He understands that the most effective way to deal with abortion is through the states.  The Federal Government will NEVER be able to agree on this.  Just be realistic!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;even though he couldnâ€™t have known 20 years ago that the incompetent government would not enforce the laws he was enacting&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Michael, do you think government was any less incompetent twenty years ago? forty years ago?

Human nature is timeless. Bureaucracies are, by their very nature, incompetent. You would do well to remember this whenever you have the impulse to expect government to fix something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>even though he couldnâ€™t have known 20 years ago that the incompetent government would not enforce the laws he was enacting</p></blockquote>
<p>Michael, do you think government was any less incompetent twenty years ago? forty years ago?</p>
<p>Human nature is timeless. Bureaucracies are, by their very nature, incompetent. You would do well to remember this whenever you have the impulse to expect government to fix something.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronald Reagan was also &lt;B&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/document/reagan200406101030.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;for a Constitutional Amendment to reverse abortion-on-demand&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/B&gt; and supported the movement for one during his Presidency.  Was he a nanny-stater too?
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;The Congress has before it several measures that would enable our people to reaffirm the sanctity of human life, even the smallest and the youngest and the most defenseless. The Human Life Bill expressly recognizes the unborn as human beings and accordingly protects them as persons under our Constitution. This bill, first introduced by Senator Jesse Helms, provided the vehicle for the Senate hearings in 1981 which contributed so much to our understanding of the real issue of abortion.

The Respect Human Life Act, just introduced in the 98th Congress, states in its first section that the policy of the United States is &quot;to protect innocent life, both before and after birth.&quot; This bill, sponsored by Congressman Henry Hyde and Senator Roger Jepsen, prohibits the federal government from performing abortions or assisting those who do so, except to save the life of the mother. It also addresses the pressing issue of infanticide which, as we have seen, flows inevitably from permissive abortion as another step in the denial of the inviolability of innocent human life.

&lt;B&gt;I have endorsed&lt;/B&gt; each of these measures, as well as the more difficult route of &lt;B&gt;constitutional amendment&lt;/B&gt;, and I will give these initiatives &lt;B&gt;my full support&lt;/B&gt;. Each of them, in different ways, attempts to reverse the tragic policy of abortion-on-demand imposed by the Supreme Court ten years ago. Each of them is a decisive way to affirm the sanctity of human life.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I ask that honestly, because I have seen many people say that the GOP cannot win landslide victories by advocating things like this.  However the last landslide victory was had by a President who was publicly adamantly anti-abortion and was in support of a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution.  I know people look back and disagree with Ronald Reagan&#039;s amnesty (even though he couldn&#039;t have known 20 years ago that the incompetent government would not enforce the laws he was enacting), but I wonder if people also look back and disagree with Ronald Reagan&#039;s active anti-abortion stance and consider it &quot;nanny-statish&quot;?

I should note that I don&#039;t support Mike Huckabee, because of his big spending, big taxing policies and because he is weak on illegal immigration.  But I am simply addressing this issue he has raised.  People are saying he is pandering and radical, etc.  If that is the case, then was Ronald Reagan doing the same?  I consider a politician to be pandering if they do not believe in what they are saying.  Is that what you are saying here?  That Mike Huckabee does not believe in a Human Life Amendment as Reagan did and is just using the issue to gain social conservative support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Reagan was also <b><a HREF="http://www.nationalreview.com/document/reagan200406101030.asp" rel="nofollow">for a Constitutional Amendment to reverse abortion-on-demand</a></b> and supported the movement for one during his Presidency.  Was he a nanny-stater too?</p>
<blockquote><p>The Congress has before it several measures that would enable our people to reaffirm the sanctity of human life, even the smallest and the youngest and the most defenseless. The Human Life Bill expressly recognizes the unborn as human beings and accordingly protects them as persons under our Constitution. This bill, first introduced by Senator Jesse Helms, provided the vehicle for the Senate hearings in 1981 which contributed so much to our understanding of the real issue of abortion.</p>
<p>The Respect Human Life Act, just introduced in the 98th Congress, states in its first section that the policy of the United States is &#8220;to protect innocent life, both before and after birth.&#8221; This bill, sponsored by Congressman Henry Hyde and Senator Roger Jepsen, prohibits the federal government from performing abortions or assisting those who do so, except to save the life of the mother. It also addresses the pressing issue of infanticide which, as we have seen, flows inevitably from permissive abortion as another step in the denial of the inviolability of innocent human life.</p>
<p><b>I have endorsed</b> each of these measures, as well as the more difficult route of <b>constitutional amendment</b>, and I will give these initiatives <b>my full support</b>. Each of them, in different ways, attempts to reverse the tragic policy of abortion-on-demand imposed by the Supreme Court ten years ago. Each of them is a decisive way to affirm the sanctity of human life.</p></blockquote>
<p>I ask that honestly, because I have seen many people say that the GOP cannot win landslide victories by advocating things like this.  However the last landslide victory was had by a President who was publicly adamantly anti-abortion and was in support of a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution.  I know people look back and disagree with Ronald Reagan&#8217;s amnesty (even though he couldn&#8217;t have known 20 years ago that the incompetent government would not enforce the laws he was enacting), but I wonder if people also look back and disagree with Ronald Reagan&#8217;s active anti-abortion stance and consider it &#8220;nanny-statish&#8221;?</p>
<p>I should note that I don&#8217;t support Mike Huckabee, because of his big spending, big taxing policies and because he is weak on illegal immigration.  But I am simply addressing this issue he has raised.  People are saying he is pandering and radical, etc.  If that is the case, then was Ronald Reagan doing the same?  I consider a politician to be pandering if they do not believe in what they are saying.  Is that what you are saying here?  That Mike Huckabee does not believe in a Human Life Amendment as Reagan did and is just using the issue to gain social conservative support?</p>
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		<title>By: gamama</title>
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		<dc:creator>gamama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Huckabee is the freshest thing to hit the political landscape in decades.  He&#039;s RIGHT on the issues and he&#039;s right for America.
He&#039;s also a BRIDGE between the parties as many dems are seeing in him a man they can get behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Huckabee is the freshest thing to hit the political landscape in decades.  He&#8217;s RIGHT on the issues and he&#8217;s right for America.<br />
He&#8217;s also a BRIDGE between the parties as many dems are seeing in him a man they can get behind.</p>
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