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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie Burrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie Burrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œâ€¦ we have Thanksgiving. Many people think that this is a time for sharing, family and happiness.  However, the Seattle Public School Staff are being informed that this is a myth: Instead, Thanksgiving should be used as a time of race guilt, America hating, and mourning.â€

False. Seattle school staff were actually told: â€œFor many Indian people, â€˜Thanksgivingâ€™ is a time of mourning, of remembering how a gift of generosity was rewarded by theft of land and seed corn, extermination of many from disease and gun, and near total destruction of many more from forced assimilation. As currently celebrated in this country, â€˜Thanksgivingâ€™ is a bitter reminder of 500 years of betrayal returned for friendship.â€
http://www.orbusmax.com/attachments/ss_thanksgivingletters.jpg

The Plimoth Pilgrims did not invent thanksgiving (small â€œtâ€). As long as the centerpiece of Thanksgiving (big â€œTâ€) is a disputed historic event, you can count on it to be something other than a Norman Rockwellian event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œâ€¦ we have Thanksgiving. Many people think that this is a time for sharing, family and happiness.  However, the Seattle Public School Staff are being informed that this is a myth: Instead, Thanksgiving should be used as a time of race guilt, America hating, and mourning.â€</p>
<p>False. Seattle school staff were actually told: â€œFor many Indian people, â€˜Thanksgivingâ€™ is a time of mourning, of remembering how a gift of generosity was rewarded by theft of land and seed corn, extermination of many from disease and gun, and near total destruction of many more from forced assimilation. As currently celebrated in this country, â€˜Thanksgivingâ€™ is a bitter reminder of 500 years of betrayal returned for friendship.â€<br />
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<p>The Plimoth Pilgrims did not invent thanksgiving (small â€œtâ€). As long as the centerpiece of Thanksgiving (big â€œTâ€) is a disputed historic event, you can count on it to be something other than a Norman Rockwellian event.</p>
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		<title>By: bohemio</title>
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		<dc:creator>bohemio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got to hate ignorant, mis-informed and biased folk, of any color, gender or creed.  Yet, there are many of them all over the world.  Today, I stumbled on a few on this list...

How about you all focus on thanking the world for being able to continue to breathe, period?

Stop wasting time on spewing on these pages the hatred that you are so afraid to express to others using the speech rights you so sacredly uphold.

What makes us ALL American is that we all have a shared hope for a brigher future, and have the most diverse and tolerant society on the planet.

To keep score.  To hold a grudge is futile, and ultimately unhealthy.

To the one who commented about what the world might be like if white folk hadn&#039;t conquered and pillaged: Not sure what to tell you.  The jury is still out on whether access to this machine called the Internet is a blessing or a curse.

Pax!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to hate ignorant, mis-informed and biased folk, of any color, gender or creed.  Yet, there are many of them all over the world.  Today, I stumbled on a few on this list&#8230;</p>
<p>How about you all focus on thanking the world for being able to continue to breathe, period?</p>
<p>Stop wasting time on spewing on these pages the hatred that you are so afraid to express to others using the speech rights you so sacredly uphold.</p>
<p>What makes us ALL American is that we all have a shared hope for a brigher future, and have the most diverse and tolerant society on the planet.</p>
<p>To keep score.  To hold a grudge is futile, and ultimately unhealthy.</p>
<p>To the one who commented about what the world might be like if white folk hadn&#8217;t conquered and pillaged: Not sure what to tell you.  The jury is still out on whether access to this machine called the Internet is a blessing or a curse.</p>
<p>Pax!</p>
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		<title>By: pxtot</title>
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		<dc:creator>pxtot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLIMOTH [sic]

&quot;Plimoth&quot; is in fact an accurate, historical spelling of &quot;Plymouth.&quot;  The right-wing manufacturers of the &quot;War on Thanksgiving&quot; should try to actually learn something about history from the Oyate page before ridiculing it.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Plimoth&#8221; is in fact an accurate, historical spelling of &#8220;Plymouth.&#8221;  The right-wing manufacturers of the &#8220;War on Thanksgiving&#8221; should try to actually learn something about history from the Oyate page before ridiculing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela Stone said : &quot;Iâ€™m sick of hearing what other nationalities or nations want us to do in America. This is our culture, not theirs and if they donâ€™t like it here, they should go back to the country they came from.&quot;

Um... American Indians should go back to the country they came from?  Or were you referring to the white Christians?  Cause one of those groups is not from America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela Stone said : &#8220;Iâ€™m sick of hearing what other nationalities or nations want us to do in America. This is our culture, not theirs and if they donâ€™t like it here, they should go back to the country they came from.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230; American Indians should go back to the country they came from?  Or were you referring to the white Christians?  Cause one of those groups is not from America.</p>
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		<title>By: Loves Thanksgiving</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loves Thanksgiving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanksgiving is first and foremost an attitude, this nonsense only makes attaining that attitude more difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving is first and foremost an attitude, this nonsense only makes attaining that attitude more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Forget the War on Christmas, here comes the War on Thanksgiving&lt;/strong&gt;

Caprice Hollins, the Director of Equity and Race Relations&nbsp;for the Seattle School&nbsp;District is at it again.&nbsp; Caprice as you may remember was the architect of the idiotic&nbsp;racist racism policy for Seattle&nbsp;schools&nbsp;not long ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Forget the War on Christmas, here comes the War on Thanksgiving</strong></p>
<p>Caprice Hollins, the Director of Equity and Race Relations&#38;nbsp;for the Seattle School&#38;nbsp;District is at it again.&#38;nbsp; Caprice as you may remember was the architect of the idiotic&#38;nbsp;racist racism policy for Seattle&#38;nbsp;schools&#38;nbsp;not long ago&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hogwash!!!!  I&#039;m sick of hearing what other nationalities or nations want us to do in America.  This is our culture, not theirs and if they don&#039;t like it here, they should go back to the country they came from.  I&#039;m not being PC (Politically Correct) any longer.  This is my country and it was begun by God-loving people.  If the atheists, Muslims, Hindu&#039;s or anyone else is offended, I&#039;m sorry, but they need to get on with their lives and stop interferring with mine!  American holidays are just that; AMERICAN!!! Not Indian, Muslim, Iranian, African, Hindu, or anything other than American!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hogwash!!!!  I&#8217;m sick of hearing what other nationalities or nations want us to do in America.  This is our culture, not theirs and if they don&#8217;t like it here, they should go back to the country they came from.  I&#8217;m not being PC (Politically Correct) any longer.  This is my country and it was begun by God-loving people.  If the atheists, Muslims, Hindu&#8217;s or anyone else is offended, I&#8217;m sorry, but they need to get on with their lives and stop interferring with mine!  American holidays are just that; AMERICAN!!! Not Indian, Muslim, Iranian, African, Hindu, or anything other than American!</p>
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		<title>By: psmarc93</title>
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		<dc:creator>psmarc93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Children are really far more capable of dealing with ironies than we give them credit for. While it&#039;s needed to hold up heros, it&#039;s also important to tell the truth. The point is the goal, the ideal, the nobility -- the fact that even Mother Theresa had doubts makes her more like the rest of us while taking nothing away from her noble achievements. Some of our greatest advancements have come from some very flawed people -- Henry Ford for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Children are really far more capable of dealing with ironies than we give them credit for. While it&#8217;s needed to hold up heros, it&#8217;s also important to tell the truth. The point is the goal, the ideal, the nobility &#8212; the fact that even Mother Theresa had doubts makes her more like the rest of us while taking nothing away from her noble achievements. Some of our greatest advancements have come from some very flawed people &#8212; Henry Ford for example.</p>
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		<title>By: michael class</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RAISING GOOD AMERICANS:

MAGIC PICTURE FRAME TEACHES CHILDREN ABOUT AMERICA AND AMERICAN VALUES

History Book Author Michael Class Says: &quot;Read the Book. Remember the Truth. Share It with Your Children.&quot;


Michael Class, a retired Seattle dot-com executive, aims to transform the way American history is taught, and he puts his money where his values are. With his children, Class wrote, photographed, and published Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame, an American history book Class describes as the &quot;antidote for the anti-American agenda in the public schools, Hollywood, and the mainstream news media.&quot;

&quot;I was appalled at how some teachers presented American history to my own children,&quot; says Class. &quot;My son and daughter learned that Thomas Jefferson had slaves - before they learned that he wrote the document articulating our rights and duties as free people. European settlers killed Native Americans with blankets infected with smallpox, they found out. That allegation upstaged the stories of courage, perseverance, and curiosity that defined the pioneers. While folding paper cranes in the classroom, my children were told that a hundred thousand people died when the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan - but they were not made to understand the moral context of World War II in which the atomic bomb story fit. My children were instructed to equate illegal aliens with legal immigrants, devaluing the story of their own ancestors who came to America through Ellis Island. And, classroom discussions always seemed to cast businessmen as villains, instead of as people to be emulated.&quot;

Class wondered: &quot;What would the heroes of America&#039;s past say to the children of today?&quot;

To answer that question, the author&#039;s real-life son, twelve-year-old Anthony, time-travels into the great events of the 20th Century. Advanced digital photography places Anthony in the cockpit of the Spirit of St. Louis with Charles Lindbergh, on the moon with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, in the laboratories of Thomas Edison and Jonas Salk, and on Normandy beach on D-Day. Anthony &quot;meets&quot; and &quot;talks with&quot; Thomas Edison, Jonas Salk, FDR, Lou Gehrig, Charles Lindbergh, Audie Murphy, and many others. But historical accuracy rules every page of Anthony&#039;s adventure in time: Anthonyâ€™s conversations with Americaâ€™s heroes are based on things they really said. The Web site, www.MagicPictureFrame.com, displays some of the book&#039;s amazing photographs.

The book was a four-year family project that included a lot of research. Class spoke with relatives of famous scientists and inventors, Holocaust survivors, award-winning biographers, and others who could help him ensure that the facts of the book were both accurate and vivid. The book includes more than 500 footnotes.

But the book goes beyond dazzling photography and solid historical facts: The book presents the moral lessons of American history. Anthony learns valuable lessons from what he sees in the past. Anthony compares the people and events of the past with the people and events of his own time. Anthony discusses the nature of good and evil, right and wrong, war and peace, what it means to be an American, honor and discipline, success and achievement, courage and destiny, marriage and family, God and purpose.

The chapter about Lindberghâ€™s flight is really about choosing oneâ€™s destiny. The story of Lou Gehrig is really about living a virtuous life. The chapter about Thomas Edison is really about the benefits of business leadership and hard work. The story of Apollo 11 is about wonder, taking risks, and courage. The story of Dr. Jonas Salk is really about dedicating oneâ€™s life to a higher purpose. When Anthony meets his immigrant great-grandfather at Ellis Island, itâ€™s really a story about what it means to be an American. Anthonyâ€™s observation of D-Day and the liberation of the death camps during the Holocaust is a testament to the reality of evil and the need to fight it.

&quot;It&#039;s not an easy book,&quot; says Class. &quot;The book challenges the young reader to see the modern world in light of the lessons of the past.&quot; Class recommends the book for kids in Grade 6 to Grade 12, and for adults who &quot;want to remember the truth.&quot;

ClassÂ designed the book to help concerned parents and teachers put American history education back on the right track.Â The book includes his personal recommendations for 461 books, 595 movies, 217 songs, and 155 places to visit, all keyed to the subjects of each chapter. The recommendations are offered as an exciting addition to any formal history curriculum, and as a way for kids to experience the past. The author&#039;s Web site offers a fun final exam.

&quot;We can&#039;t afford to raise a generation of Americans who do not value their country, their heritage, and their place in the world,&quot; insists Class. &quot;As my immigrant grandfather once told me: I became an American because I believe in America, and it&#039;s my belief in America that makes me an American - you can only be an American by choice.&quot;

Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame was named Outstanding Book of the Year by Independent Publisher; Reviewers Choice by Midwest Book Review; and Editor&#039;s Pick by Homefires: The Journal of Homeschooling Online. Nationally syndicated talk-show host Michael Medved calls the book &quot;entertaining and educational.&quot; Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin says &quot;parents and teachers will appreciate the inspiring message this unique history book holds for America&#039;s next generation. I recommend this book to all young Americans, may they take us to the stars and beyond.&quot;

Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame (hardcover, 225 pages, $25.00) is available at www.MagicPictureFrame.com, by calling toll-free 1-800-247-6553, at select bookstores, and on www.amazon.com.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RAISING GOOD AMERICANS:</p>
<p>MAGIC PICTURE FRAME TEACHES CHILDREN ABOUT AMERICA AND AMERICAN VALUES</p>
<p>History Book Author Michael Class Says: &#8220;Read the Book. Remember the Truth. Share It with Your Children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Michael Class, a retired Seattle dot-com executive, aims to transform the way American history is taught, and he puts his money where his values are. With his children, Class wrote, photographed, and published Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame, an American history book Class describes as the &#8220;antidote for the anti-American agenda in the public schools, Hollywood, and the mainstream news media.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I was appalled at how some teachers presented American history to my own children,&#8221; says Class. &#8220;My son and daughter learned that Thomas Jefferson had slaves &#8211; before they learned that he wrote the document articulating our rights and duties as free people. European settlers killed Native Americans with blankets infected with smallpox, they found out. That allegation upstaged the stories of courage, perseverance, and curiosity that defined the pioneers. While folding paper cranes in the classroom, my children were told that a hundred thousand people died when the atomic bomb was dropped on Japan &#8211; but they were not made to understand the moral context of World War II in which the atomic bomb story fit. My children were instructed to equate illegal aliens with legal immigrants, devaluing the story of their own ancestors who came to America through Ellis Island. And, classroom discussions always seemed to cast businessmen as villains, instead of as people to be emulated.&#8221;</p>
<p>Class wondered: &#8220;What would the heroes of America&#8217;s past say to the children of today?&#8221;</p>
<p>To answer that question, the author&#8217;s real-life son, twelve-year-old Anthony, time-travels into the great events of the 20th Century. Advanced digital photography places Anthony in the cockpit of the Spirit of St. Louis with Charles Lindbergh, on the moon with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, in the laboratories of Thomas Edison and Jonas Salk, and on Normandy beach on D-Day. Anthony &#8220;meets&#8221; and &#8220;talks with&#8221; Thomas Edison, Jonas Salk, FDR, Lou Gehrig, Charles Lindbergh, Audie Murphy, and many others. But historical accuracy rules every page of Anthony&#8217;s adventure in time: Anthonyâ€™s conversations with Americaâ€™s heroes are based on things they really said. The Web site, <a href="http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com</a>, displays some of the book&#8217;s amazing photographs.</p>
<p>The book was a four-year family project that included a lot of research. Class spoke with relatives of famous scientists and inventors, Holocaust survivors, award-winning biographers, and others who could help him ensure that the facts of the book were both accurate and vivid. The book includes more than 500 footnotes.</p>
<p>But the book goes beyond dazzling photography and solid historical facts: The book presents the moral lessons of American history. Anthony learns valuable lessons from what he sees in the past. Anthony compares the people and events of the past with the people and events of his own time. Anthony discusses the nature of good and evil, right and wrong, war and peace, what it means to be an American, honor and discipline, success and achievement, courage and destiny, marriage and family, God and purpose.</p>
<p>The chapter about Lindberghâ€™s flight is really about choosing oneâ€™s destiny. The story of Lou Gehrig is really about living a virtuous life. The chapter about Thomas Edison is really about the benefits of business leadership and hard work. The story of Apollo 11 is about wonder, taking risks, and courage. The story of Dr. Jonas Salk is really about dedicating oneâ€™s life to a higher purpose. When Anthony meets his immigrant great-grandfather at Ellis Island, itâ€™s really a story about what it means to be an American. Anthonyâ€™s observation of D-Day and the liberation of the death camps during the Holocaust is a testament to the reality of evil and the need to fight it.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s not an easy book,&#8221; says Class. &#8220;The book challenges the young reader to see the modern world in light of the lessons of the past.&#8221; Class recommends the book for kids in Grade 6 to Grade 12, and for adults who &#8220;want to remember the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>ClassÂ designed the book to help concerned parents and teachers put American history education back on the right track.Â The book includes his personal recommendations for 461 books, 595 movies, 217 songs, and 155 places to visit, all keyed to the subjects of each chapter. The recommendations are offered as an exciting addition to any formal history curriculum, and as a way for kids to experience the past. The author&#8217;s Web site offers a fun final exam.</p>
<p>&#8220;We can&#8217;t afford to raise a generation of Americans who do not value their country, their heritage, and their place in the world,&#8221; insists Class. &#8220;As my immigrant grandfather once told me: I became an American because I believe in America, and it&#8217;s my belief in America that makes me an American &#8211; you can only be an American by choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame was named Outstanding Book of the Year by Independent Publisher; Reviewers Choice by Midwest Book Review; and Editor&#8217;s Pick by Homefires: The Journal of Homeschooling Online. Nationally syndicated talk-show host Michael Medved calls the book &#8220;entertaining and educational.&#8221; Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin says &#8220;parents and teachers will appreciate the inspiring message this unique history book holds for America&#8217;s next generation. I recommend this book to all young Americans, may they take us to the stars and beyond.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anthony and the Magic Picture Frame (hardcover, 225 pages, $25.00) is available at <a href="http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MagicPictureFrame.com</a>, by calling toll-free 1-800-247-6553, at select bookstores, and on <a href="http://www.amazon.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate's Cove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pirate's Cove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WTW: The War On Christmas Has Started Begins Early&lt;/strong&gt;


Good morning, infidels. Prophet Sallami Sallami Mohammed is in the house on this ÙˆÙ‡ØªÙŠ ØªØ±Ø³Ù‡ ÙˆØ¥Ø¯Ù†Ø³Ø¯Ø§ÙŠ (White Trash Wednesday.) Its been awhile since I made an appearence. Been doing some of that jihad stuff, working to convince your gull...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WTW: The War On Christmas Has Started Begins Early</strong></p>
<p>Good morning, infidels. Prophet Sallami Sallami Mohammed is in the house on this ÙˆÙ‡ØªÙŠ ØªØ±Ø³Ù‡ ÙˆØ¥Ø¯Ù†Ø³Ø¯Ø§ÙŠ (White Trash Wednesday.) Its been awhile since I made an appearence. Been doing some of that jihad stuff, working to convince your gull&#8230;</p>
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