The Ron Paul Revolution
Posted on October 20, 2007
I’ve already had my word on how I think Ron Paul is off the wall, and how too many of his supporters are just plain loony. However, I can’t deny that he has been an impressive underdog, and gained quite a popular cult classic following. He isn’t box office, but may go down in a legendary fashion. I’d respect him a bit more though if he would do a better job of distancing himself from some the majority of fringe that supports him. Anyway…if you are a Ron Paul supporter and you can afford it…there is a call for revolution. Can you afford $100 bucks by November 5th?
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Nothing will stop the Ron Paul Express because it is powered by THE CONSTITUTION.
The American people are and will continue to respond to the clarion call of this mighty contract!
Ron Paul: 45 states in the primary, 49 in the general
Bold claims, yet passionate ones. Time will tell.
Have you ever listened to him speak in a setting that didn’t have strict time constraints? It quickly becomes obvious that he’s probably the sanest person in the world. He can take any issue, break it down to its fundamental pieces, and then walk you through step, by rational step, why he disagrees with the conventional wisdom.
He’s not omniscient, so he may actually be wrong on some or even all of the issues, but you can’t deny his intellect and his intellectual honesty.
Here is a good 5 minute taste. You’ll never see a typical politician in an interview like this. Paul didn’t “prep” for it. He knows the issues cold and he’ll go as deep as the interviewer is willing to go. If you don’t believe me, check out some of his books. And take note of what isn’t in the list: a self-congratulatory biography.
And yes, I shake my head at guys like FZappa too. Keep in mind though, we’ve had to listen to “He’s crazy!” and “He has no chance!” for six months now. That’s a lot of disrespect to deal with. Some people feel the need to yell back and convince you that you’re wrong. Most of us just put our heads down and work harder.
Funny, of the thousands of video’s of Ron Paul on Youtube, you decide to judge Ron Paul supporters by this video. Why not judge them by videos like Ron Paul: A New Hope, Ron Paul: Stop Dreaming, Ron Paul: In the course of human events, Ron Paul: Don’t Tread on Me, Ron Paul: Join the Revolution, etc.
After looking at the videos I’ve listed on Youtube, would you dare write something like that again?
Eric,
This is why we get a bad rep. Jay made his judgment awhile back. I agree that he should watch any of those videos if he wants to look beneath the surface, but don’t just show up at his site attack him based on assumptions.
That goes for the rest of you, too. Flooding forums is counter-productive. Get offline pass literature to the 89% that haven’t made up their mind yet. I assure you, everyone here already has.
I’m NOBODY, I don’t EXIST, but yet I’m EVERYWHERE and I’m voting for RON PAUL!
Yep. Ron Paul’s crazy. Anybody who refuses to accept the Congressional pension plan must be out of his mind. A person who refuses to vote himself a pay raise must be nuts. A person who refuses to accept a taxpayer funded junket has to be just plain loony.
Yeah Ron Paul is crazy – crazy like a fox, and a real man of the people to boot.
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Look, this is a blog called stop the ACLU — this is not really the kind of conservative who would be friendly to libertarianism. I agree with Jeff Molby, stop searching for Ron Paul blogs to post in and go talk to people who *haven’t* already made up their mind against him. Your chances are much better that way.
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I’m pretty friendly to libertarians. I agree with them on several issues like seat belt laws and helmet laws. I divide on the drug legalization and isolationism. I know many that call themselves libertarians that don’t adopt the more extreme views of it. On the issue of legalizing Prostitution I am a Federalist.
Jay,
How do you reconcile your position on controlled substances with your position on legal substances like alcohol and tobacco?
First of all a clarification. I am against legalizing ALL drugs. The libertarian argument is based on the faulty position that the buying, selling, and use of drugs only affect the individuals involved. This is not true. I reconcile on how extensive the potential to damage others is. First off, lets get a few things out of the way. Tobacco has little impact on other individuals not engaged in it. The damage it does cause can be avoided by others, and it doesn’t cause any intoxication that would affect judgement or endanger others. This argument would also extend to marijuana with the exception of the intoxication factor. However, the potential for others to be harmed is minimal enough that I would not argue against advocating for the legalization of this particular drug.
With alcohol, we have many problems despite extensive attempts to educate the public on its dangers. This education has had an impact however, and while too many drink irresponsibly, many use moderation on this. It is a highly addictive drug, and just because it is legal doesn’t hold any water to make other dangerous drugs legal.
As we climb the ladder on harder drugs I base my opinion on what I’ve seen in the real world. I have watched Cocaine ruin many lives. This isn’t to say that some can’t use it in moderation, but the risk factor to others is too high for me to advocate its legalization. I’ve seen good people turn into thieves and liars over this drug. I’ve seen it ruin many families. I don’t see how legalizing this would change this problem. Making it more available would only encourage its use. This same argument applies to other hard drugs like crack and heroine. The use of these drugs affect more than just the user.
Check out my argument here.
And as for the thieves part, thats entirely becasue of the drug war. With legalization, drugs would be cheap enough that people would not have to commit the fifty percent of property crimes to buy drugs at black market prices.
Also, there would be less reasons to lie if it was legal. Perhaps in a more tolerant society family members could honestly seek each others help in the open for these kinds of problems. If alcohol had a prison term for possession, I would imagine a family member with a problem would be much less likely to seek positive help from loved ones.
I’m not advocating for making alcohol illegal.
If making alcohol illegal causes more harm than having it legal, then wouldn’t a state of legality for heroin cause less harm than making it illegal?
Of course the fact of drugs being illegal does cause part of the crime. However, if drugs were legal, not only would the crime rate increase because of the increased number of people who were taking drugs, but there would still be a “black market†and a motive for profit, which brings me the next point..The Black Market.
There are two theories that legalizers like to use that claim the legalization of drugs would eliminate the black market. One states that if drugs were legal they would be sold at regulated government stores. Other legalizers state that drugs would be given out to the poor addicts who could not afford them.
Some believe prices would be low enough to wipe out the black market. Buyers would, however, be heavily taxed to pay for drug education programs and rehabilitation centers. And these taxes would make it possible for criminals to undercut the official price and make their profit. The ACLU wants regulation, and the fact is that a black market would still exist unless all psychoactive and addictive drugs in all strengths were made available to all ages in unlimited quantity.
And again, what of the democratic process? The vast majority of Americans are against legalization of all drugs.
Ok. I’d like to analyze some of those points further, but I don’t have much time. Keep an eye on this thread for the next few days. It’s an important topic and I’d like to hash it out, but it’ll have to be a slower pace than usual.
First things first, that is incorrect. I don’t know anyone foolish enough to say such a thing. Everything we do affects other people.
The libertarian argument is that I have the right to do anything I please, so long as it doesn’t step on the rights of anyone else. If I injure someone else through malice or negligence, I am guilty. Mind altering substances or not. Set aside all of your arguments about how drugs affect loved ones; they don’t apply here. Abuse is abuse. Neglect is neglect.
You ever heard of Roid rage? Hard drugs destroy lives. If someone wants to destroy their life, let them break the law to do it.
If you believe you can legislate away bad decision-making, that’s your business. I just ask that you state our views accurately.
Tell me this Jeff. Take prostitution for example. Do you think it should be de-criminalized? If so, should the government regulate it, or would that be interfering with freedom? Should some kind of regulation be imposed upon it by the government, be it Federal or State? Or would this be trying to legislate away bad decision-making?
Pure freedom is the ideal. I want to get as close to it as is practical. So yeah, prostitution should be decriminalized. If you feel it would need regulation, go ahead and regulate it; we’d still be freer than we are today.
The closer you get to ‘pure freedom’ the closer you get to absolutism and anarchy. The founders never advocated for anything like this. They were federalist and wanted those things decided by each State, who’s representatives were an extension of the majority populace via democratic vote.
If it were legalized, it would have to be regulated to protect other people’s rights. I don’t want a prostitute being pimped where my kid catches the bus. It should be left to the States like it is. Nevada it is legal but regulated. Regulating creates even more laws.
Yes and no. There’s definitely a tipping point at which more freedom leaves you vulnerable to warlords and such, but up until that point, more freedom is better for society. You can easily see this to be true by comparing our country to a less free country like the USSR.
In order to believe we shouldn’t strive to become more free than we are now, you’d have to assume we are already nudged up against that tipping point. I find that incredibly unlikely since we’ve steadily marched away from freedom for the past 100 years. That is why I believe that the pursuit of my beliefs, even if we ultimately stop short of where I’d want to be, would bring us closer to the vision of the founders.
Be careful. You’re falling into the same trap the Dems live in. You don’t have a “right” not to encounter other people in public. I wouldn’t want a handful of weathered men near my son at the bus stop either, but if they’re just going about their lives, it’s my problem, not theirs.
Besides, you’re missing the paradigm shift. I’m no expert on the matter, but I doubt street-walking is the optimum business model. Legalize it and most of the unsavory aspects go away.
And again, I’m more than willing to compromise. I just want to end the death spiral.
I agree. I would not support attempts by the fed to get involved.
Yes, but this is one of the rare instances where having more laws actually increases your freedom. “You may not leave your cage. If you do, you will be executed.” is a pretty short criminal code, but it far less free than we are with our library full of laws.
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There has been much talk as to why Ron Paul will not speak up to distance himself from the so called: looneys,crazies and crackpots. This is my opinion on the subject. I am not crazy,just a middle aged housewife from a small,fairly ordinary town,who loves America and wants to keep it as great as it once was. America has always been known as a melting pot and that not only meant nationality but also a melting pot of opinions and thoughts. These people who annoy you are part of this great nation as well and the Constitution is for them also. I believe Ron Paul brings people together and stands up for all of us no matter how diverse.We,the RON Paul Nation are tired of politics as usual and yes,some take the extreme route in getting his name out there. But if you watch network TV you can see the bias in news reports and know that the press is trying to keep him out of the news.If you don’t agree fine but I just felt you should hear my viewpoint, that the reason he does not distance himself is that he believes all men are created equal just as our Forefathers did.