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	<title>Comments on: Judaism established as the official religion of Florida</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/18/judaism-established-as-the-official-religion-of-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-64220</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;According to halakha, the mezuzah should be placed on the right side of the door (from the point of view of the person entering the room), in the upper third of the doorpost (i.e., approximately shoulder height),[2] within approximately 3 inches of the doorway opening. &quot;

Sound like this is a religious item that is suppose to be hung outside the office door if he plans on placing it at that door. Although it is not a luck item like a horseshoe, it is an item to remind of the faith. I had to look them up to figure out what they are, but the cases I saw were very well crafted, very decorative. Since proper placement is a sign of respect, and improper placement is insulting, the polite thing to do is to place it properly on the door frame if you wish to display it for all to see.

I think I can overlook a small religious symbol on a doorframe if it makes others happy to see it there, even if I&#039;m not of the faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;According to halakha, the mezuzah should be placed on the right side of the door (from the point of view of the person entering the room), in the upper third of the doorpost (i.e., approximately shoulder height),[2] within approximately 3 inches of the doorway opening. &#8221;</p>
<p>Sound like this is a religious item that is suppose to be hung outside the office door if he plans on placing it at that door. Although it is not a luck item like a horseshoe, it is an item to remind of the faith. I had to look them up to figure out what they are, but the cases I saw were very well crafted, very decorative. Since proper placement is a sign of respect, and improper placement is insulting, the polite thing to do is to place it properly on the door frame if you wish to display it for all to see.</p>
<p>I think I can overlook a small religious symbol on a doorframe if it makes others happy to see it there, even if I&#8217;m not of the faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Stormwarning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormwarning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart; and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon &lt;b&gt;the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

And yet, Gov. Crist is not Jewish, is he?  But why the outrage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart; and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.  And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon <b>the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.</b></i></p>
<p>And yet, Gov. Crist is not Jewish, is he?  But why the outrage?</p>
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		<title>By: JackLewis.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackLewis.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU furious over Florida gov&#039;s respect for religion&lt;/strong&gt;

From the Palm Beach Post... Gov. Charlie Crist views it as a sign of respect, but, for some, the mezuzah hanging outside his Capitol office has morphed into a controversial symbol.... &quot;The problem is that if he says yes to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ACLU furious over Florida gov&#8217;s respect for religion</strong></p>
<p>From the Palm Beach Post&#8230; Gov. Charlie Crist views it as a sign of respect, but, for some, the mezuzah hanging outside his Capitol office has morphed into a controversial symbol&#8230;. &#8220;The problem is that if he says yes to&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florida can establish whatever religion they want unless their own constitution states otherwise.  The First Amendment definitely states &quot;Congress&quot; and not the &quot;Florida Legislature&quot;.  On the other hand if you want to misinterpret the U.S. Constitution then feel free to make it say anything you want since one lie is as good as another.  The ACLU obviously follow that deceptive philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florida can establish whatever religion they want unless their own constitution states otherwise.  The First Amendment definitely states &#8220;Congress&#8221; and not the &#8220;Florida Legislature&#8221;.  On the other hand if you want to misinterpret the U.S. Constitution then feel free to make it say anything you want since one lie is as good as another.  The ACLU obviously follow that deceptive philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Leavitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Leavitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just a special souvenir from his trip to Israel, to a secularist. That the ACLU sees religious worship, or government endorsement of religion assumes that the religious people worship such things as if they were idols, yet Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all consider that a sin.

Further, an elected official&#039;s office is more comparable to a judge&#039;s chamber, or office, than a courthouse. It&#039;s a totally different case.

Great stuff, as always!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just a special souvenir from his trip to Israel, to a secularist. That the ACLU sees religious worship, or government endorsement of religion assumes that the religious people worship such things as if they were idols, yet Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all consider that a sin.</p>
<p>Further, an elected official&#8217;s office is more comparable to a judge&#8217;s chamber, or office, than a courthouse. It&#8217;s a totally different case.</p>
<p>Great stuff, as always!</p>
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		<title>By: reliapundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>reliapundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he shoulda just put the mazuzah on the door post leading the new ACLU-endorsed non-denominational foot-bath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he shoulda just put the mazuzah on the door post leading the new ACLU-endorsed non-denominational foot-bath.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At least the Florida ACLU has finally cleared that up and admitted that atheism is a religion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Missed this the first time...

If that&#039;s how he felt, the whole &quot;or even those representing atheism&quot; part would be redundant. That&#039;s pretty unlikely especially when you consider that he used the word &quot;even&quot;.

If he meant to convey that atheism was a religion, he would have said, &quot;...of other religions, including atheism.&quot; or &quot;...of other religions such as X, Y, and atheism.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At least the Florida ACLU has finally cleared that up and admitted that atheism is a religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Missed this the first time&#8230;</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s how he felt, the whole &#8220;or even those representing atheism&#8221; part would be redundant. That&#8217;s pretty unlikely especially when you consider that he used the word &#8220;even&#8221;.</p>
<p>If he meant to convey that atheism was a religion, he would have said, &#8220;&#8230;of other religions, including atheism.&#8221; or &#8220;&#8230;of other religions such as X, Y, and atheism.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check the ACLU&#039;s site. I&#039;m sure they&#039;ll point you in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check the ACLU&#8217;s site. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll point you in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: ArrMatey</title>
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		<dc:creator>ArrMatey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, so it&#039;s settled then.  Thanks for that, Mr. Molby.  Let the semitic artifact police begin their sweeps post haste.

Snark aside, I&#039;d love to see where the Supremes ruled anything that would apply thusly to this set of facts.  If I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;m wrong, and then I&#039;d have a different problem about which to post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, so it&#8217;s settled then.  Thanks for that, Mr. Molby.  Let the semitic artifact police begin their sweeps post haste.</p>
<p>Snark aside, I&#8217;d love to see where the Supremes ruled anything that would apply thusly to this set of facts.  If I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;m wrong, and then I&#8217;d have a different problem about which to post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One wonders if the Governor would be allowed to have the item inside his office. What about a photograph in his office in which a Star of David appears?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It would probably depend on the prominence of the item.

My boss has no problem with me having some pictures on my desk. He would probably balk at a large poster on the wall. He would definitely balk at a large poster on the outside of the door. The same would be true of a religious item.

There is difference in principle between possessing an item for your own purposes and displaying it in a prominent manner.

When a government official has a relatively insignificant religious item in his office, no big deal. We all have personal effects at work. When the same official displays the same or similar item in a prominent way, he crosses the line by using his official position to promote the item and by extension, the religion.

You can argue all day about whether that constitutes &quot;establishing a religion&quot;, but I don&#039;t have the time or desire for that and SCOTUS is on record as disagreeing with you, so you shouldn&#039;t have much trouble understanding why the ACLU is on pretty safe ground with this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One wonders if the Governor would be allowed to have the item inside his office. What about a photograph in his office in which a Star of David appears?</p></blockquote>
<p>It would probably depend on the prominence of the item.</p>
<p>My boss has no problem with me having some pictures on my desk. He would probably balk at a large poster on the wall. He would definitely balk at a large poster on the outside of the door. The same would be true of a religious item.</p>
<p>There is difference in principle between possessing an item for your own purposes and displaying it in a prominent manner.</p>
<p>When a government official has a relatively insignificant religious item in his office, no big deal. We all have personal effects at work. When the same official displays the same or similar item in a prominent way, he crosses the line by using his official position to promote the item and by extension, the religion.</p>
<p>You can argue all day about whether that constitutes &#8220;establishing a religion&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t have the time or desire for that and SCOTUS is on record as disagreeing with you, so you shouldn&#8217;t have much trouble understanding why the ACLU is on pretty safe ground with this one.</p>
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