New York Times Compares Americans to Hitler’s Good Germans

Posted on October 14, 2007

Frank Rich:

“Ten days ago The Times unearthed yet another round of secret Department of Justice memos countenancing torture. President Bush gave his standard response: “This government does not torture people.” Of course, it all depends on what the meaning of “torture” is. The whole point of these memos is to repeatedly recalibrate the definition so Mr. Bush can keep pleading innocent.

By any legal standards except those rubber-stamped by Alberto Gonzales, we are practicing torture, and we have known we are doing so ever since photographic proof emerged from Abu Ghraib more than three years ago. As Andrew Sullivan, once a Bush cheerleader, observed last weekend in The Sunday Times of London, America’s “enhanced interrogation” techniques have a grotesque provenance: “Verschärfte Vernehmung, enhanced or intensified interrogation, was the exact term innovated by the Gestapo to describe what became known as the ‘third degree.’ It left no marks. It included hypothermia, stress positions and long-time sleep deprivation.”

He cites Andrew Sullivan as if that has some kind of convincing power to the remaining cheerleaders of tough interrogation methods. I don’t even know where to start, but a cup of coffee and a game of chess in the interrogation room with the enemy isn’t it.

Dread Pundit Bluto says it well:

Frank, Hitler was an enthusiastic anti-smoker. In fact, he banned smoking in his presence. Therefore, all anti-smokers are evil, a new Gestapo in our midst. This is patently ridiculous, as is Rich’s argument that aggressive interrogation techniques like waterboarding or sleep deprivation are exactly equivalent to yanking fingernails and severing genitals.

On the other hand, folks like Frank, who deliberately help the cause of worldwide jihad in order to futher their own political agenda are Good Jihadis. When the Caliphate comes, Frank, you’ll find out what “torture” really is.

Much idiocy in the common and unoriginal comparisons of America and Nazi Germany, but quite new spit in the face to the American public here.

“Our humanity has been compromised by those who use Gestapo tactics in our war. The longer we stand idly by while they do so, the more we resemble those “good Germans” who professed ignorance of their own Gestapo. It’s up to us to wake up our somnambulant Congress to challenge administration policy every day. Let the war’s last supporters filibuster all night if they want to. There is nothing left to lose except whatever remains of our country’s good name.”

Curt at Flopping Aces concludes:

The fact of the matter is that we are waging this war as humanely as possible, often to our own detriment. Our troops are put into situations that are more risky then they need to be because we do not want to kill civilians. Those al-Qaeda agents we do capture could very well be executed on the spot if we follow the rules of war, but we don’t. We instead feed them and clothe them, and then interrogate them, as any responsible nation would that wanted to protect its soldiers and citizens. And interrogation via the use of sleep deprivation, or head slapping, or girls panties being placed on one’s head is not inhumane.

The torture chambers Saddam used was inhumane. The rape rooms that Saddam used was inhumane.

You know, those same chambers we put into mothballs because we invaded.

The left conveniently forgets that fact, to no ones surprise. In the end you cannot get over the simple fact that conservatives have been condemning large scale murder and torture by nation states such as Saddams for years, while liberals excuse it.

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5 Responses to “New York Times Compares Americans to Hitler’s Good Germans”

  1. davy42055 on October 14th, 2007 2:09 pm

    And they still wont change their act even as the last light is turned out in their worthless
    paper.

  2. Dennis D on October 14th, 2007 4:15 pm

    Framk Rich is a left wing extremist that can no longer be taken seriously. Hitler used Affirmative Action by offering preferencial treatment according to ethnicity. Hitler just ” PREFERRED ” Aryans. Sounds like the Pro AA Hitler was a Liberal.

  3. David on October 15th, 2007 11:13 am

    In the days of Hitler ,they denied the atrocities until denial could no longer
    be effective, then they claimed ignorance
    and then finally a long time afterwards
    they said what could we do, the govt.
    had all the power.
    Well it plays out once again, American bases in 120+ countries trying to push their will on the world
    Again A nation dares to stagger the world
    4% of the population of the world dares to
    push their will on the rest of us
    The world is faced yet again the unsavoury
    prospect of putting down another regime bent on world domination .This time Russia and china will lead the fight of self preservation. in the days of miracles and wonders we are faced with thunder of the gods once again.

  4. charle on October 15th, 2007 12:01 pm

    I LOVE THE COMMENT OF THE DESERT FATHER ” HOW GOES THE WORLD? WHAT
    KINGDOM HAS FALLEN AND WHAT ONE HAS RISEN IN ITS PLACE?” MANKIND MUST
    CERTAINLY LACK THE WISDOM OF GOD WHEN HE REFLECTS BACK THAT HE WILL
    NEVER RULE THE WORLD.DEATH WILL SNUFF OUT THAT DREAM.THANK GOD FOR THE WISDOM
    OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST,WHO SAID MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS EARTH.WE ARE
    PASSING THROUGH THIS FADING WORLD TO A KINGDOM IN ETERNAL TIME.

  5. kerwin on October 16th, 2007 12:57 am

    We are Hitler’s “good Germans” as we tolerate the genocide of million of American children yet in their mother’s womb. I am firmly convinced we are comparable to Nazi Germany.