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		<title>By: RegularRon</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/11/ron-paul-give-peace-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-63987</link>
		<dc:creator>RegularRon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have said in the past, Ron Paul is preachig the Conervatism our Conservative founding fathers. As in President Coolige, Sen. Robert Taft, and Sen.Barry Goldwater. Real Conservatism. But thoughts three names have been replaced by Socailist, like F.D.R, J.F.K, and Sen. Scoop friggin Jackson.(I cringed every time Hannity brings him up as some kind of conservative hero)

There&#039;s not a dimes worh of differnce between Benito (Rudy) or Lazy Thompson, and Countress Bathory(Hitery) or Dip-stick galore Obama. There isn&#039;t a differnce one bit. Big Governent, Higher Taxes, more Undeclared Wars fought under so-called UN &quot;orders&quot;.

&quot;If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.&quot; Ronald Reagan said that. You guys remember him right? Or has he been replaced by Woodrow Wilson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have said in the past, Ron Paul is preachig the Conervatism our Conservative founding fathers. As in President Coolige, Sen. Robert Taft, and Sen.Barry Goldwater. Real Conservatism. But thoughts three names have been replaced by Socailist, like F.D.R, J.F.K, and Sen. Scoop friggin Jackson.(I cringed every time Hannity brings him up as some kind of conservative hero)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not a dimes worh of differnce between Benito (Rudy) or Lazy Thompson, and Countress Bathory(Hitery) or Dip-stick galore Obama. There isn&#8217;t a differnce one bit. Big Governent, Higher Taxes, more Undeclared Wars fought under so-called UN &#8220;orders&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.&#8221; Ronald Reagan said that. You guys remember him right? Or has he been replaced by Woodrow Wilson?</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Ron Paul is that he is still at heart a
Libertarian. They canÂ´t seem to get elected to anything
more than dog catcher. Historically, their candidates
for president never garners more than 3%of the vote. So
for somebody with high aspirations, such as Congressman
Paul his only option is to be a Republican. Interesting
either Republicans or Democrats leave their party they
become independent instead of aligning with a third party
like the Libertarian. It could give those third parties a
boost in membership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Ron Paul is that he is still at heart a<br />
Libertarian. They canÂ´t seem to get elected to anything<br />
more than dog catcher. Historically, their candidates<br />
for president never garners more than 3%of the vote. So<br />
for somebody with high aspirations, such as Congressman<br />
Paul his only option is to be a Republican. Interesting<br />
either Republicans or Democrats leave their party they<br />
become independent instead of aligning with a third party<br />
like the Libertarian. It could give those third parties a<br />
boost in membership.</p>
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		<title>By: steveegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>steveegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to miss the Paul-nuts about the end of next summer.  Sadly, he&#039;s not going anywhere for a while.

You probably should have put a language warning on the link to my post.  Paul&#039;s latest bout of insanity sent me over the edge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to miss the Paul-nuts about the end of next summer.  Sadly, he&#8217;s not going anywhere for a while.</p>
<p>You probably should have put a language warning on the link to my post.  Paul&#8217;s latest bout of insanity sent me over the edge.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I forgot to mention that the trade deficit stuff starts about 40 seconds into the video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I forgot to mention that the trade deficit stuff starts about 40 seconds into the video.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/11/ron-paul-give-peace-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-63983</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If I were China I would use economic means. The U.S. is a consumer nation and does not have enough sense to only purchase what they can buy so they would easily get into dept to me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You&#039;re right. That is a realistic scenario. I just so happens that Dr. Paul talks about this regularly. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailypaul.com/article/trade%2520deficit&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is one such example.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I would also use third parties such as N.Korea, Iran, Sudan and Burma to cause the U.S. to spend more money.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes. So why is it that most of our politicians are encouraging us to take the bait?

&lt;blockquote&gt;We could not even handle their numbers during the Korean war and that was without the technology they have obtained from us in the meantime.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Depends on the location. I said &quot;conquer&quot;, so I was implying that they would defeat us here.

Numerical superiority wouldn&#039;t help them much in that case. They would need air and naval superiority in order to capitalize on their numerical advantage. That&#039;s certainly possible (probably even inevitable), but not in the reasonable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If I were China I would use economic means. The U.S. is a consumer nation and does not have enough sense to only purchase what they can buy so they would easily get into dept to me.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right. That is a realistic scenario. I just so happens that Dr. Paul talks about this regularly. <a href="http://www.dailypaul.com/article/trade%2520deficit" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is one such example.</p>
<blockquote><p>I would also use third parties such as N.Korea, Iran, Sudan and Burma to cause the U.S. to spend more money.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes. So why is it that most of our politicians are encouraging us to take the bait?</p>
<blockquote><p>We could not even handle their numbers during the Korean war and that was without the technology they have obtained from us in the meantime.</p></blockquote>
<p>Depends on the location. I said &#8220;conquer&#8221;, so I was implying that they would defeat us here.</p>
<p>Numerical superiority wouldn&#8217;t help them much in that case. They would need air and naval superiority in order to capitalize on their numerical advantage. That&#8217;s certainly possible (probably even inevitable), but not in the reasonable future.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were China I would use economic means.  The U.S. is a consumer nation and does not have enough sense to only purchase what they can buy so they would easily get into dept to me.  There is a saying that a debtor is a slave of the lender and I could then use that debt to take over businesses and ports thus tightening my control.  Taking over the businesses would give me more access to higher technology which I could use to improve my armed forces.  I would also use third parties such as N.Korea, Iran, Sudan and Burma to cause the U.S. to spend more money.  In time my country (China) would have pretty much total control of the U.S. without even bothering to fire a shot.  If it did come to a shooting war I would have the citizens to spare even if 99% of my population was wiped out in a nuclear war.  The U.S would probably loose in a conventional war against China.  We could not even handle their numbers during the Korean war and that was without the technology they have obtained from us in the meantime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were China I would use economic means.  The U.S. is a consumer nation and does not have enough sense to only purchase what they can buy so they would easily get into dept to me.  There is a saying that a debtor is a slave of the lender and I could then use that debt to take over businesses and ports thus tightening my control.  Taking over the businesses would give me more access to higher technology which I could use to improve my armed forces.  I would also use third parties such as N.Korea, Iran, Sudan and Burma to cause the U.S. to spend more money.  In time my country (China) would have pretty much total control of the U.S. without even bothering to fire a shot.  If it did come to a shooting war I would have the citizens to spare even if 99% of my population was wiped out in a nuclear war.  The U.S would probably loose in a conventional war against China.  We could not even handle their numbers during the Korean war and that was without the technology they have obtained from us in the meantime.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thompson&#039;s GOP debate debut proves to be a dud&lt;/strong&gt;

Fred Thompson made his debate debut in the 2008 Republican presidential campaign Tuesday, then blend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thompson&#8217;s GOP debate debut proves to be a dud</strong></p>
<p>Fred Thompson made his debate debut in the 2008 Republican presidential campaign Tuesday, then blend</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/11/ron-paul-give-peace-a-chance/comment-page-1/#comment-63980</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Good idea! Weâ€™ll just nuke any country off the face of the earth if it even dares touch us. Nuclear fallout and/or retaliatory consequences be damned!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He said &quot;could&quot;, not &quot;should&quot;. His point is that we have many layers of defenses. If you disagree, I would love to hear you outline the strategy by which a country such as Iran (or even China) could conquer us.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Iraq had a significant military...Iran also has a significant military&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Those statements are truly only in the sense that Nigeria &lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; have a significant military. Neither Iraq, nor Iran, have, had, or will have a military that can seriously challange, let alone defeat any industrial nation, let alone us.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Paul wants to get rid of the CIA&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Be careful not to twist this. It&#039;s the bureaucracy he wants to eliminate, not the function. He has stated clearly on national TV that he believes the gathering of foreign intelligence is a necessary and proper function of the federal government.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Taking in all those positions in addition to others mentioned earlier just emphasizes the fact that he does not take into consideration how implementing the ideas that heâ€™s presenting will affect the world...their beliefs seem to be largely divorced from any sort of real world impact that may occur or the political reality that has to be dealt with.

You can win pats on the back for your purity or you can accomplish something in the political arena, but you usually canâ€™t do both. Ron Paul does not seem to have figured that out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
John Hawkins has clearly not read past the headlines.

I have devoured virtually every public word spoken by Dr. Paul in the past 6 months, and I have heard absolute &lt;em&gt;nothing&lt;/em&gt; that led me to believe that he expected to create anything remotely resembling a libertarian utopia in the next 8 years, let alone 4. He knows full well that the monstrosity that is our federal government took decades to build and would take decades to dismantle.

The Ron Paul campaign is about changing the direction of the federal government, not about taking a sledgehammer to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Good idea! Weâ€™ll just nuke any country off the face of the earth if it even dares touch us. Nuclear fallout and/or retaliatory consequences be damned!</p></blockquote>
<p>He said &#8220;could&#8221;, not &#8220;should&#8221;. His point is that we have many layers of defenses. If you disagree, I would love to hear you outline the strategy by which a country such as Iran (or even China) could conquer us.</p>
<blockquote><p>Iraq had a significant military&#8230;Iran also has a significant military</p></blockquote>
<p>Those statements are truly only in the sense that Nigeria <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> have a significant military. Neither Iraq, nor Iran, have, had, or will have a military that can seriously challange, let alone defeat any industrial nation, let alone us.</p>
<blockquote><p>Paul wants to get rid of the CIA</p></blockquote>
<p>Be careful not to twist this. It&#8217;s the bureaucracy he wants to eliminate, not the function. He has stated clearly on national TV that he believes the gathering of foreign intelligence is a necessary and proper function of the federal government.</p>
<blockquote><p>Taking in all those positions in addition to others mentioned earlier just emphasizes the fact that he does not take into consideration how implementing the ideas that heâ€™s presenting will affect the world&#8230;their beliefs seem to be largely divorced from any sort of real world impact that may occur or the political reality that has to be dealt with.</p>
<p>You can win pats on the back for your purity or you can accomplish something in the political arena, but you usually canâ€™t do both. Ron Paul does not seem to have figured that out.</p></blockquote>
<p>John Hawkins has clearly not read past the headlines.</p>
<p>I have devoured virtually every public word spoken by Dr. Paul in the past 6 months, and I have heard absolute <em>nothing</em> that led me to believe that he expected to create anything remotely resembling a libertarian utopia in the next 8 years, let alone 4. He knows full well that the monstrosity that is our federal government took decades to build and would take decades to dismantle.</p>
<p>The Ron Paul campaign is about changing the direction of the federal government, not about taking a sledgehammer to it.</p>
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