Comments on: Stop the ACLU Blogburst (Ron Paul tag tossed in for gratuitous linkage) http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:50:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Shadowscope http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63940 Shadowscope Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:00:25 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63940 <strong>Stop the ACLU Blogburst</strong> Just got this in earlier and needed to share. The video above is from ADF, and is practically a commericial for them, but I don't see anything wrong with that at all. I urge you to go join and donate!... Stop the ACLU Blogburst

Just got this in earlier and needed to share. The video above is from ADF, and is practically a commericial for them, but I don’t see anything wrong with that at all. I urge you to go join and donate!…

]]> By: kender http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63939 kender Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:22:41 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63939 Christopher, yes the iranians can do that, and there is nothing to stop them. But that shouldn't stop our government from chasing down terrorists. If we had a real evil government they would have simply killed him instead of letting him go (if they were to do such a thing) but IF they did this they were nice enough to let him go and not just put a bullet in the back of his head. Christopher, yes the iranians can do that, and there is nothing to stop them. But that shouldn’t stop our government from chasing down terrorists. If we had a real evil government they would have simply killed him instead of letting him go (if they were to do such a thing) but IF they did this they were nice enough to let him go and not just put a bullet in the back of his head.

]]> By: Christopher http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63938 Christopher Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:50:17 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63938 So... Can the Iranian government, who have now declared the United States a state sponsor of terror, abduct US citizens and send them to some remote island in the pacific for torture interrogation, due to belief that they might be a "terrorist agent"? I rarely agree with the ACLU on anything, but they are right to assert that the U.S. cannot abduct citizens of foreign countries and subject them to torture and release them in the middle of no-where. That is absurd. The man needs his day in court. Other than the fact that this is just appalling that we would do this, it is even sadder that we're trying to cover it up. Americans are soon looking at the day when they can no longer leave the borders of their own country for fear that they will be abducted by foreign governments who no longer care to respect the Geneva Convention on the basis that if America doesn't adhere to it, they sure don't have to. So… Can the Iranian government, who have now declared the United States a state sponsor of terror, abduct US citizens and send them to some remote island in the pacific for torture interrogation, due to belief that they might be a “terrorist agent”? I rarely agree with the ACLU on anything, but they are right to assert that the U.S. cannot abduct citizens of foreign countries and subject them to torture and release them in the middle of no-where. That is absurd. The man needs his day in court. Other than the fact that this is just appalling that we would do this, it is even sadder that we’re trying to cover it up. Americans are soon looking at the day when they can no longer leave the borders of their own country for fear that they will be abducted by foreign governments who no longer care to respect the Geneva Convention on the basis that if America doesn’t adhere to it, they sure don’t have to.

]]> By: kender http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63937 kender Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:45:48 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63937 Agent Smith, the ACLU works tirelessly to enact international law, secularism and far left ideals through judicial activism into the culture of this country. Anyone that doesn't see that must really be brainwashed. Next time you want to leave a comment please leave one with some semblance of substance. Agent Smith, the ACLU works tirelessly to enact international law, secularism and far left ideals through judicial activism into the culture of this country.

Anyone that doesn’t see that must really be brainwashed.

Next time you want to leave a comment please leave one with some semblance of substance.

]]> By: Agent Smith http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63936 Agent Smith Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:39:22 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63936 The ACLU works to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. Anyone who criticizes it must really be brainwashed. The ACLU works to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to every person in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. Anyone who criticizes it must really be brainwashed.

]]> By: ds0490 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63935 ds0490 Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:24:37 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63935 As for that leak, perhaps you should look in the Bush Administration for the source of that leak. They were so blasted happy to be able to play yet another fear card that they overplayed their hand. As for that leak, perhaps you should look in the Bush Administration for the source of that leak. They were so blasted happy to be able to play yet another fear card that they overplayed their hand.

]]> By: kender http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63934 kender Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:09:12 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63934 brian, our rights, while God Given, apply to those who fall under our jurisdiction, i.e. citizens of this country, the United States of America. Using your logic, the "rights" granted to a person under sharia law would also be universal and islamic countries could then apply them to citizens of this country. Logic and teh real world don't work that way. People are protected under the laws of the country in which they are a citizen. brian, our rights, while God Given, apply to those who fall under our jurisdiction, i.e. citizens of this country, the United States of America. Using your logic, the “rights” granted to a person under sharia law would also be universal and islamic countries could then apply them to citizens of this country.

Logic and teh real world don’t work that way. People are protected under the laws of the country in which they are a citizen.

]]> By: Brian http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/comment-page-1/#comment-63933 Brian Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:02:05 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/10/stop-the-aclu-blogburst-lindsay-lohan-tag-tossed-in-for-gratuitous-linkage/#comment-63933 If our rights come from God or from natural law, then issues of nationality are not relevant. If you believe that civil liberties only apply to US citizens, then you are asserting that our rights are not natural at all, but mere privileges extended by the state. Thank you, Mr. Stalin. By the way, it's telling that the government did not dispute the plaintiff's account. They merely asserted the right to bury the incident as a "state secret". To any reasonable observer, by even arguing the case in this manner the Bush administration has conceded that they do in fact engage in rendition and sponsor torture. It's also worth noting that nowhere in the Constitution is the executive branch granted the authority to declare secrets at all. The Congress is granted the power to declare its minutes secret, but the executive is given no such power. That means that access to the federal courts is being cut off here on the basis of a power asserted without Constitutional basis. If our rights come from God or from natural law, then issues of nationality are not relevant.

If you believe that civil liberties only apply to US citizens, then you are asserting that our rights are not natural at all, but mere privileges extended by the state.

Thank you, Mr. Stalin.

By the way, it’s telling that the government did not dispute the plaintiff’s account. They merely asserted the right to bury the incident as a “state secret”. To any reasonable observer, by even arguing the case in this manner the Bush administration has conceded that they do in fact engage in rendition and sponsor torture.

It’s also worth noting that nowhere in the Constitution is the executive branch granted the authority to declare secrets at all. The Congress is granted the power to declare its minutes secret, but the executive is given no such power. That means that access to the federal courts is being cut off here on the basis of a power asserted without Constitutional basis.

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