Comments on: Anti-War Demonstrators Claim They’re Being Watched With “Spy Flies”…. http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63912 Jeff Molby Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:38:01 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63912 <blockquote>The ACLU and others complain that our government spies on protesters..I don’t get it. They are right there in the streets. No spying is needed. They are in the public.</blockquote> You document protesters in public so you know who they are. You also watch their interactions so you know their relative influence. Then you spy on them in private to build a basis for a propaganda campaign. I won't venture to say to what degree this is happening today, but it is well documented that it has happened in our past and it would be silly to think the same motivations and capabilities don't still exist.

The ACLU and others complain that our government spies on protesters..I don’t get it. They are right there in the streets. No spying is needed. They are in the public.

You document protesters in public so you know who they are. You also watch their interactions so you know their relative influence. Then you spy on them in private to build a basis for a propaganda campaign.

I won’t venture to say to what degree this is happening today, but it is well documented that it has happened in our past and it would be silly to think the same motivations and capabilities don’t still exist.

]]> By: Ro-micro http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63911 Ro-micro Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:27:21 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63911 just wait until those "Spy-flies" start procreating and lay "eggs" in all of those protesters open orifices. Those microscopic transmitters (eggs)will transmit back to spy central their every movement via gps satellite. hint: it's great sport to load your piece with rat shot and take potshots at these things while protesting, but be sure that you "silence" your piece, because not only will the police react to "shots fired" with return fire, some of your fellow protesters will crawl under the nearest dumster and the protest effectiveness will lose support in direct proportion to how many do so. just wait until those “Spy-flies”
start procreating and lay “eggs” in
all of those protesters open orifices.
Those microscopic transmitters (eggs)will
transmit back to spy central their every
movement via gps satellite.
hint: it’s great sport to load your
piece with rat shot and take potshots
at these things while protesting, but
be sure that you “silence” your piece,
because not only will the police react
to “shots fired” with return fire, some
of your fellow protesters will crawl
under the nearest dumster and the
protest effectiveness will lose support
in direct proportion to how many do so.

]]> By: Tim http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63910 Tim Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:23:42 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63910 Calm down! I tracked down your DHS black project. There are several different versions of these on the market. It is probably one of the RC dragonflies you see these days, kids toy. Calm down! I tracked down your DHS black project. There are several different versions of these on the market. It is probably one of the RC dragonflies you see these days, kids toy.

]]> By: Jay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63909 Jay Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:22:23 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63909 Heh! Maybe it is real flies and they are trippin out! Amos makes a good point though. Why would we spend so much money to spy on hippies? The ACLU and others complain that our government spies on protesters..I don't get it. They are right there in the streets. No spying is needed. They are in the public. It would be much easier to believe we have this technology, and that we could be trying to use it on our real enemies even. Heh! Maybe it is real flies and they are trippin out! Amos makes a good point though. Why would we spend so much money to spy on hippies? The ACLU and others complain that our government spies on protesters..I don’t get it. They are right there in the streets. No spying is needed. They are in the public. It would be much easier to believe we have this technology, and that we could be trying to use it on our real enemies even.

]]> By: badwing http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63908 badwing Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:45:16 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63908 Gotta love those paranoid, hippie, conspiracy theory truthers. They're most likely referring to a childs toy called the "Wow-Wee Dragonfly" that I'm sure was deployed by one of the unwashed to harass law enforcement and/or Starbucks patrons. Article here.. http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/14/wowwees-flytech-dragonfly-reviewed/ Video here... http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/wow-wee-dragonfly-video-222440.php Gotta love those paranoid, hippie, conspiracy theory truthers. They’re most likely referring
to a childs toy called the “Wow-Wee Dragonfly” that I’m sure was deployed by one of the
unwashed to harass law enforcement and/or Starbucks patrons.
Article here.. http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/14/wowwees-flytech-dragonfly-reviewed/

Video here… http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/wow-wee-dragonfly-video-222440.php

]]> By: N. O'Brain http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63907 N. O'Brain Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:41:37 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63907 "What is the government going to learn to it’s advantage? That they hate Bush and don’t shower?" Maybe THAT'S why they have flies. “What is the government going to learn to it’s advantage? That they hate Bush and don’t shower?”

Maybe THAT’S why they have flies.

]]> By: Amos http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63906 Amos Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:17:26 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63906 Who on earth would go to such lengths to spy on these idiots? Just look out the window and there they are, marching around with the giant puppets like morons. What is the government going to learn to it's advantage? That they hate Bush and don't shower? This is a stupid story. Who on earth would go to such lengths to spy on these idiots? Just look out the window and there they are, marching around with the giant puppets like morons. What is the government going to learn to it’s advantage? That they hate Bush and don’t shower?

This is a stupid story.

]]> By: Matt http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63905 Matt Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:30:36 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63905 Hmm. I'll believe it when someone brings a butterfly net and catches one. But if I were the government and I wanted to see what protesters were doing, I'd just skip a day or two of baths, dress like a hippie, and wander down to the protest with a camera. I'd be invisible - and it's cheaper than evil CIA silicon bugs. Hmm. I’ll believe it when someone brings a butterfly net and catches one. But if I were the government and I wanted to see what protesters were doing, I’d just skip a day or two of baths, dress like a hippie, and wander down to the protest with a camera. I’d be invisible – and it’s cheaper than evil CIA silicon bugs.

]]> By: Kralizec http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63904 Kralizec Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:04:00 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63904 Progress in the techniques of miniaturization seems to make the production of such small, mechanical fliers quite probable; if they aren't already in use, it seems they will be in the near future. Nor is the extension of sight and hearing likely to be their greatest capacity, for if they can carry an electronic payload, it seems they can carry a chemical, biological, or radioactive payload. If techniques of miniaturization continue on their present course, then before long, someone somewhere will make a mechanical "tsetse fly," a device able to find a man or woman and spit ricin, ebola, or polonium in his eye. Letting known enemies live, as the Americans have let so many of theirs live, will become less and less feasible, as the means of assassination and mass terror become more widely available, more adaptable, and more easily kept concealed. It seems the Americans will make their peace with murder or they will make their peace with the grave. I prefer that they learn to murder. Progress in the techniques of miniaturization seems to make the production of such small, mechanical fliers quite probable; if they aren’t already in use, it seems they will be in the near future. Nor is the extension of sight and hearing likely to be their greatest capacity, for if they can carry an electronic payload, it seems they can carry a chemical, biological, or radioactive payload. If techniques of miniaturization continue on their present course, then before long, someone somewhere will make a mechanical “tsetse fly,” a device able to find a man or woman and spit ricin, ebola, or polonium in his eye. Letting known enemies live, as the Americans have let so many of theirs live, will become less and less feasible, as the means of assassination and mass terror become more widely available, more adaptable, and more easily kept concealed. It seems the Americans will make their peace with murder or they will make their peace with the grave. I prefer that they learn to murder.

]]> By: Johann http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/comment-page-1/#comment-63903 Johann Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:02:27 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/09/anti-war-demonstrators-claim-theyre-being-watched-with-spy-flies/#comment-63903 Is that a picture of what they described? If so, they've never seen a dragonfly. Dragonflies are much bigger than that. Is that a picture of what they described? If so, they’ve never seen a dragonfly. Dragonflies are much bigger than that.

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