Comments on: ACLU Releases Statement on Mexican Flag Flying Over American Flag http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 04:45:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Robert Hamilton http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63714 Robert Hamilton Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:01:47 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63714 Oh man... ACLU... Jim Broussard is what we need more of in this country. Hell, I even set up an entire website in his honor. If anyone wants, feel free to come in and chat in my forum. Whether you agree with what he did or not.... http://therealpatriot.net/cgi/forum/ If you haven't seen the original video.. it can be seen on my front page http://therealpatriot.net Take care and GOD BLESS AMERICA! Oh man… ACLU… Jim Broussard is what we need more of in this country. Hell, I even set up an entire website in his honor. If anyone wants, feel free to come in and chat in my forum. Whether you agree with what he did or not….

http://therealpatriot.net/cgi/forum/

If you haven’t seen the original video.. it can be seen on my front page
http://therealpatriot.net

Take care and GOD BLESS AMERICA!

]]> By: Blog-o-Fascists http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63713 Blog-o-Fascists Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:30:12 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63713 <strong>Press Ignores ACLU Flip-Flop on Flag Controversy</strong> NewsBusters.org - Exposing Liberal Media Bias The controversy started when a Mexican bar owner in Reno Nevada flew the Mexican flag above that of the United States. This is illegal under United States Code Section 7, Title Four.  An insulted and o... Press Ignores ACLU Flip-Flop on Flag Controversy

NewsBusters.org – Exposing Liberal Media Bias

The controversy started when a Mexican bar owner in Reno Nevada flew the Mexican flag above that of the United States. This is illegal under United States Code Section 7, Title Four.  An insulted and o…

]]> By: Conservative Culture http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63712 Conservative Culture Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:35:53 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63712 <strong>ACLU - Patriot Committed a Crime Cutting Down Mexican Flag</strong> Of course the ACLU has now stepped in. Federal law only “suggests” how the flag should be flown. So now the Patriot who cut down the Mexican Flag flying over the American Flag is in legal “hot water”. Two sources for this one... ACLU – Patriot Committed a Crime Cutting Down Mexican Flag

Of course the ACLU has now stepped in. Federal law only &#8220;suggests&#8221; how the flag should be flown. So now the Patriot who cut down the Mexican Flag flying over the American Flag is in legal &#8220;hot water&#8221;. Two sources for this one…

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63711 Jeff Molby Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:17:48 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63711 <blockquote>If it is ok for foreigners to IGNORE immigration LAWS</blockquote> It's not. Catch them and deport them. Just make sure you're following the law as you do so. <blockquote>If we are going to start choosing which laws we obey or not obey</blockquote> "Start"? We've been ignoring inconvienent laws since the early 20th century. I'm all for putting a stop to the practice.

If it is ok for foreigners to IGNORE immigration LAWS

It’s not. Catch them and deport them. Just make sure you’re following the law as you do so.

If we are going to start choosing which laws we obey or not obey

“Start”? We’ve been ignoring inconvienent laws since the early 20th century. I’m all for putting a stop to the practice.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63710 Jeff Molby Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:46:14 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63710 That's great George, but there's a much shorter law that would take precedence. If it is determined that the owner of the flags was trying to make a statement, it doesn't really matter what TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > § 7 says. That’s great George, but there’s a much shorter law that would take precedence.

If it is determined that the owner of the flags was trying to make a statement, it doesn’t really matter what TITLE 4 &gt; CHAPTER 1 &gt; § 7 says.

]]> By: George http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63709 George Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:04:44 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63709 TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > § 7 Prev | Next § 7. Position and manner of display How Current is This? The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line. (a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section. (b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender. (c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations. (d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag’s own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag. (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs. (f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag’s right. (g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. (h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building. (i) When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag’s own right, that is, to the observer’s left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street. (j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street. (k) When used on a speaker’s platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman’s or speaker’s right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience. (l) The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument. (m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection— (1) the term “half-staff” means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff; (2) the term “executive or military department” means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and (3) the term “Member of Congress” means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico. (n) When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground. (o) When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer’s left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east. TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > § 8 Prev | Next § 8. Respect for flag How Current is This? No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. (a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. (b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise. (c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free. (d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general. (e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way. (f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. (g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. (h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything. (i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown. (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. (k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning. TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > § 9 Prev | Next § 9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag How Current is This? During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes. The page that has the most information about LRC versions (including which titles are "positive law") is http://uscode.house.gov/about/info.shtml Certain titles of the Code have been enacted into positive law, and pursuant to section 204 of title 1 of the Code, the text of those titles is legal evidence of the law contained in those titles. The other titles of the Code are prima facie evidence of the laws contained in those titles. The following titles of the Code have been enacted into positive law: 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 23, 28, 31, 32, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 44, 46, and 49. TITLE 4 &gt; CHAPTER 1 &gt; § 7
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§ 7. Position and manner of display
How Current is This?
The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line.
(a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
(c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof: Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations.
(d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag’s own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag.
(e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs.
(f) When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last. No such flag or pennant may be placed above the flag of the United States or to the United States flag’s right.
(g) When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace.
(h) When the flag of the United States is displayed from a staff projecting horizontally or at an angle from the window sill, balcony, or front of a building, the union of the flag should be placed at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half-staff. When the flag is suspended over a sidewalk from a rope extending from a house to a pole at the edge of the sidewalk, the flag should be hoisted out, union first, from the building.
(i) When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union should be uppermost and to the flag’s own right, that is, to the observer’s left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.
(j) When the flag is displayed over the middle of the street, it should be suspended vertically with the union to the north in an east and west street or to the east in a north and south street.
(k) When used on a speaker’s platform, the flag, if displayed flat, should be displayed above and behind the speaker. When displayed from a staff in a church or public auditorium, the flag of the United States of America should hold the position of superior prominence, in advance of the audience, and in the position of honor at the clergyman’s or speaker’s right as he faces the audience. Any other flag so displayed should be placed on the left of the clergyman or speaker or to the right of the audience.
(l) The flag should form a distinctive feature of the ceremony of unveiling a statue or monument, but it should never be used as the covering for the statue or monument.
(m) The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection—
(1) the term “half-staff” means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
(2) the term “executive or military department” means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and
(3) the term “Member of Congress” means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.
(n) When the flag is used to cover a casket, it should be so placed that the union is at the head and over the left shoulder. The flag should not be lowered into the grave or allowed to touch the ground.
(o) When the flag is suspended across a corridor or lobby in a building with only one main entrance, it should be suspended vertically with the union of the flag to the observer’s left upon entering. If the building has more than one main entrance, the flag should be suspended vertically near the center of the corridor or lobby with the union to the north, when entrances are to the east and west or to the east when entrances are to the north and south. If there are entrances in more than two directions, the union should be to the east.

TITLE 4 &gt; CHAPTER 1 &gt; § 8
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§ 8. Respect for flag
How Current is This?
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
(a) The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
(b) The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
(c) The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
(f) The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
(h) The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

TITLE 4 &gt; CHAPTER 1 &gt; § 9
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§ 9. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag
How Current is This?
During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

The page that has the most information about LRC versions (including which titles are “positive law”) is http://uscode.house.gov/about/info.shtml

Certain titles of the Code have been enacted into positive law, and pursuant to section 204 of title 1 of the Code, the text of those titles is legal evidence of the law contained in those titles. The other titles of the Code are prima facie evidence of the laws contained in those titles. The following titles of the Code have been enacted into positive law: 1, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 23, 28, 31, 32, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 44, 46, and 49.

]]> By: peter http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63708 peter Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:50:54 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63708 I hope he gets charges. One thing is true patriotism, the other is a pathetic display of 'patriotism' shielded under the "I'm a veteran".. I thought veterans had decorum... not act like 15 year old teenagers, poor old fart.. also, I dunno where they get the illegal issue, the owner of that place is a USC. And yes, there's indeed protocol and should be respected, but to act like a lawless redneck under the 'true american' label, it's pathetic. I know Americans are more intelligent than that, and civilized I hope he gets charges. One thing is true patriotism, the other is a pathetic display of ‘patriotism’ shielded under the
“I’m a veteran”.. I thought veterans had decorum… not act like 15 year old teenagers, poor old fart.. also, I dunno
where they get the illegal issue, the owner of that place is a USC. And yes, there’s indeed protocol and should be
respected, but to act like a lawless redneck under the ‘true american’ label, it’s pathetic. I know Americans are more
intelligent than that, and civilized

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63707 Jeff Molby Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:55:28 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63707 Jedke, if you want the publicity, that's fine, but you know being ungrateful isn't a crime, right? Jedke, if you want the publicity, that’s fine, but you know being ungrateful isn’t a crime, right?

]]> By: Jedke http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/comment-page-1/#comment-63706 Jedke Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:38:24 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2007/10/03/aclu-releases-statement-on-mexican-flag-flying-over-american-flag/#comment-63706 I hope Jim is charged with a crime and demands a trial! will help shine the light on whores who put Mexico first and spit on the U.S while demanding all it has to offer. I hope Jim is charged with a crime and demands a trial! will help shine the light on whores who put Mexico first and spit on the U.S while demanding all it has to offer.

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