Radical Christian “New Crusaders” invade PA school, take hostages
Posted on April 3, 2007
OK, not really…and not likely in any event.
Burlington County Times: Hostage drill prepares school for crisis
The scenario has played out in real life across America: Gunfire echoes through a school and students are held hostage.
But police, faculty and staff lived out their own make-believe version yesterday of just such a tragedy at Burlington Township High School, complete with Kevlar-clad officers, armed suspects and students portraying the wounded and dead.
The purpose of the drill was to test the reactions of police, faculty and administration.
“You perform as you practice,†Superintendent Chris Manno said prior to the exercise. “We need to practice under conditions as real as possible in order to evaluate our procedures and plans so that they’re as effective as possible.â€
The mock terror attack involved two irate men armed with handguns who invaded the high school through the front door. They pretended to shoot several students in the hallway and then barricaded themselves in the media center with 10 student hostages.
Two Burlington Township police detectives portrayed the gunmen. Investigators described them as members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the “New Crusaders†who don’t believe in separation of church and state. The mock gunmen went to the school seeking justice because the daughter of one had been expelled for praying before class.
To make the drill more realistic, about 10 students volunteered to act as hostages or wounded victims. Several faculty members helped simulate a complete school lockdown, followed by an evacuation.
This is the stupid local bureaucrat version of the Sum of All Fears. What would have made the “drill more realistic” would have been to cut the crap and portray the child-killing terrorists as Islamists. The only people I can think of that regularly put children in the line of fire these days are radical Muslims. Of course that would have “outraged” the “Muslim community,” so they picked a ridiculous scenario because they knew the worst Christians would do is write a couple letters to the editor. OK, ADF may have sued the idiot government school bureaucrat that prevented the girl from praying before school and the school would have sobbed to the media that the principal got a really, really mean email. But the “New Crusaders” invading a school because they “don’t believe in separation of church and state?” BS.
Notice the subtlety in the writer’s choice of words — he implies, like so many ignoramouses in the media are wont to do, that a girl praying on her own before school presents schools with a legitimate of constitutional conundrum…that such a heinous act may violate the sacred “separation of church and state.”
With our media and the goverment schools so thoroughly Rosie-ized (”radical Christianity is just as dangerous as radical Islam), it shouldn’t be any big surprise, but it’s certainly worth a chuckle.
UPDATE: WorldNetDaily quotes this post: School drill portrays killers as Christians
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Psst. Waco. Oklahoma City. Olympic Park bombings. Army of God. Eric Rudolph.
Yeah, there are no Christian terrorists, nothing to see here. Move along. None of these things ever happened.
Tired garbage Greg-o. None of those lunatics were Christians in any true sense of the word. I can claim that I’m a plate of guacamole…even if I paint myself green…I’m not a plate of guacamole.
Waco — are you calling Janet Reno a Christian terrorist?
McVeigh — NOT a Christian. Self-described “agnostic.” Can’t be both, buddy. Don’t pull out your little “Christian Identity” drool…you’ll only cement your ignorance if you do.
Rudolph/Army of God/Olympic Park (funny how you needed to make one thing look like three in an attempt to “bolster” your “gotcha dossier.” Sorry though Greg-o, you strike out again. We return to “Christian Identity” and the ignorance you display by associating this trash with mainstream Christianity.
Bottom line — even if any or all of these people were Christians, no one in the Christian mainstream has come out in support of them or anything they’ve done whether it was done “in the name of God” or not. The same can;t be said of the Muslims, the tip of the worldwide terrorism spear. Get your head out of the sand.
Was surprised to see one comment that Radical Christians are as bad as Radical Islamics. I sure don’t see any Christians today anywhere lopping off heads or crashing into buildings in planes or strapping on explosives blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus. So SPARE ME of that drivel comparision.
Lion, Glib – you have to realize that in today’s world (well, America anyway), the “main stream”, that is to say the “do whatever you want, we don’t care) crowd, DOES see Christians as terrorists. You see, to them, when we tell them that God loves them, created them to honor and love him, and is saddened when they sin, to the point where they will not spend eternity in his presence, rather they will spend eternity in hell (separated from him), we are “infringing on their rights”. The only reason I can see that we HAVEN’T seen someone “sue for the RIGHT to go to Heaven” is that no one can sue God, only the Church, and they don’t make the decision.
Odd, however, that when Christians simply tell people that homosexuality and stealing are sins, we are demonized for “legislating morality”, but no one even discusses the FACT that were you to be gay in a Muslim country, you would be blugeoned with stones until dead, or have a wall dropped on your head. If you are “convicted” (bad term for these countries I know) of theft, THEY CHOP OFF YOUR HAND. But, after all, they are a “religion of peace”, so they are not to be discussed, right?
Oh sweet cheese. Fine, these supposed Christians aren’t true Christians. Fine. The people in Pennsylvania aren’t saying that the group would be TRUE Christians, just that they might CLAIM to be Christian. (BTW, AOG includes lovely people like former minister Paul Jennings Hill, Michael Griffin, and Michael Bray.) Did you read the article, Glib? I don’t recall it saying that it was the Mainstream Methodist Church who held up the school in their exercise, it was a theoretical group of crazies who claimed a Christian identity.
Goldlions, how many children were killed in Oklahoma City? The only difference is that McVeigh didn’t blow himself up. (Glib, McVeigh told Time magazine in 1996 that he believed in God, and the Guardian in 2001 that he was an agnostic. Think maybe his time in prison might have changed his views?)
The 9/11 attacks were condemned by Mainstream Islam. So were the London Bombings. You could easily make the argument that the terrorists weren’t TRUE Muslims, weren’t part of mainstream Islam.
Hmm…I seem to recall a number of groups along the line of Aryan
Nation–you know, groups that advocate the violent overthrow of the
U.S. government, who support recriminalizing homosexuality (with
severe penalties), and who would seek to repeal the Bill of Rights–
and who call themselves “true” Christians and want to set up
theocracies.
Of course, Glib has the reponse tactic down pat: Oh, those folks
aren’t really mainstream Christians, anyway. Of course, real
“mainstream” christianity excludes right-wing evangelicals. In other
words, someone like Rick Warren could be called “mainstream”; Robertson,
Dobson, et al–not so much.
Smokey–you have every right to waste all the oxygen you want telling
people that homosexuality is a sin (”sin” = whatever a right-winger
disapproves of), it’s the constant attempts to legislate your cherry-
picked biblical admonitions that are objected to.
Lion, Glib – you have to realize that in today’s world (well, America anyway), the “main streamâ€, that is to say the “do whatever you want, we don’t care) crowd, DOES see Christians as terrorists.
“do whatever you want, we don’t care”, is not the mainstream. That is what the MSM would have you believe but is not reality.
just that they might CLAIM to be Christian.
Maybe you should try reading the article again.
“Investigators described them as members of a right-wing fundamentalist group called the “New Crusaders†who don’t believe in separation of church and state. The mock gunmen went to the school seeking justice because the daughter of one had been expelled for praying before class.”
Are you a Christian Greg?
The 9/11 attacks were condemned by Mainstream Islam. So were the London Bombings.
Sources?
and who call themselves “true†Christians and want to set up
theocracies.
What they call themselves is not relevant. What they show themselves to be, is.
People who make statements that Christians want to set up a “Theocracy” are simply stating that they haven’t a clue as to how a representative Republic works and how the Constitution protects it.
I’ll ask you the same thing… are you a Christian?
it’s the constant attempts to legislate your cherry-
picked biblical admonitions that are objected to.
Object all you like. That doesn’t change the fact that the admonitions have been in the Bible from the beginning, there’s no need to “cherry-pick” them, they were legislated throughout our history and every country on earth had the same prohibitions. America’s prohibition was just recently overturned by a SCOTUS that ruled without precedent and relied on “International Law” rather than “Constitutional Law”.
Did I miss it? Did “New Crusaders” become a mainstream denomination? Did mainstream Christianity adopt armed hostage taking as a tactic in the battle against Church and State? If not, then the article is not claiming anyone in mainstream Christianity would be involved.
Are you a Christian Greg?
Ad hominem much? Does the fact that I am, in fact, a Christian, who belongs to a mainstream denomination which applauds the church/state separation, make the fact that there are Christian terrorists out there more or less true?
Sources?
Google? 1.1 million hits. Take your pick. There are only a million such hits for “Muslims condemn London bombing” so you have fewer to pick from. But that’s still a lot.
You have to have your head covered in sand to believe that there are no people in the world that 1) CLAIM to be Christian and 2) MIGHT be terrorists.
Did I miss it? Did “New Crusaders†become a mainstream denomination? Did mainstream Christianity adopt armed hostage taking as a tactic in the battle against Church and State? If not, then the article is not claiming anyone in mainstream Christianity would be involved.
It was a hypothetical situation for training purposes Greg! Rather than keeping it hypothetical, they portrayed Christians as “terrorists” for the purpose of making them look as radical as the so-called christians you refer to above.
With all the attacks on schools in the world, why would they insinuate that “fundamental Christians” could be terrorists, rather than portray the radicals that have actually carried out attacks?
My asking if you are a Christian is not ad hominem.
I asked, to determine the viewpoint you are arguing from.
Some Churches follow the Biblical definition of Christianity and some churches follow a worldview yet claim to be Christian, and some followed Biblical Christianity, then allowed the social gospel to infiltrate and replace their theology. They are nothing more than social clubs who use religious sounding names and phraseology.
The fact that you are trying to tie the “fundamental Christians” in with the radicals you mentioned above…leads me to think you are from the second church, leaving the possibility of the third church open.
You have to have your head covered in sand to believe that there are no people in the world that 1) CLAIM to be Christian and 2) MIGHT be terrorists.
Yes, those who CLAIM to be christian have and will commit terrorist acts and those who want to demonize Christians will continue to portray them as though they were no different than “christian Identity” and other like groups.
That is what this post points out. Not surprisingly; it seems to have pushed one of your buttons.