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	<title>Comments on: Russian  Christian students suspended for praying at a Washington school</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/03/11/russian-christian-students-suspended-for-praying-at-a-washington-school/comment-page-1/#comment-62188</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ogre:  ROTFLMAO!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ogre:  ROTFLMAO!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 20:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, a bunch of students that wouldn&#039;t stop disrupting the school cafeteria were suspended? How is this a problem? Is there no church they can go to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, a bunch of students that wouldn&#8217;t stop disrupting the school cafeteria were suspended? How is this a problem? Is there no church they can go to?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Podcast #211: Life Imitates Art&lt;/strong&gt;

The case of 12 Russian-American school children suspended for praying before school is the topic of today&#039;s Truth and Hope Report morning update.

Click here to listen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Podcast #211: Life Imitates Art</strong></p>
<p>The case of 12 Russian-American school children suspended for praying before school is the topic of today&#8217;s Truth and Hope Report morning update.</p>
<p>Click here to listen.</p>
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		<title>By: DBK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One correction.  The Liberty Counsel attorney whose statements contradict the reports that preceded her is not a &quot;he&quot; but a &quot;she&quot;.  Her name is Anita Staver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction.  The Liberty Counsel attorney whose statements contradict the reports that preceded her is not a &#8220;he&#8221; but a &#8220;she&#8221;.  Her name is Anita Staver.</p>
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		<title>By: DBK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your report, and source, is wildly inaccurate.  They were suspended for holding their meetings in a place that blocked student traffic.  They were not only not denied permission to form a club, but were given all of the information they needed to form the club and offered assistance in doing so.  The district has rules and policies with respect to forming clubs and does not prohibit the forming of clubs for religious purposes by students.  The students, in essence, were seeking extra rights that other students do not have.

Please research these sorts of pieces more closely as this misinformation about the incident at Heritage High School in Vancouver, WA has been widely misreported by people who have an agenda and the facts do not support your source&#039;s version of events.  It is possible that they were refused a private room by a school administrator on one occasion, but that seems, according to the accounts I have read (and I have read pretty much every account on this story and also had contact with people in Vancouver familiar with the school), to have been an error on that administrator&#039;s part that was corrected not long afterwards by school officials who, as I said, discussed forming a club with the students per the rules.  It is unclear whether Vice Principal Alex Otoupal did anything wrong, however, so I don&#039;t think we can claim he was wrong here absent more authoritative information.

Be wary of what that lawyer from Liberty Counsel is saying, by the way, since his remarks directly contradict pretty much every version of the story that preceded his entrance into the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your report, and source, is wildly inaccurate.  They were suspended for holding their meetings in a place that blocked student traffic.  They were not only not denied permission to form a club, but were given all of the information they needed to form the club and offered assistance in doing so.  The district has rules and policies with respect to forming clubs and does not prohibit the forming of clubs for religious purposes by students.  The students, in essence, were seeking extra rights that other students do not have.</p>
<p>Please research these sorts of pieces more closely as this misinformation about the incident at Heritage High School in Vancouver, WA has been widely misreported by people who have an agenda and the facts do not support your source&#8217;s version of events.  It is possible that they were refused a private room by a school administrator on one occasion, but that seems, according to the accounts I have read (and I have read pretty much every account on this story and also had contact with people in Vancouver familiar with the school), to have been an error on that administrator&#8217;s part that was corrected not long afterwards by school officials who, as I said, discussed forming a club with the students per the rules.  It is unclear whether Vice Principal Alex Otoupal did anything wrong, however, so I don&#8217;t think we can claim he was wrong here absent more authoritative information.</p>
<p>Be wary of what that lawyer from Liberty Counsel is saying, by the way, since his remarks directly contradict pretty much every version of the story that preceded his entrance into the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ogre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite -- if they had been Muslims, they would have been meeting with the school&#039;s permission and would be joined by faculty and staff and have a budget from the taxpayer funds to pay for their activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite &#8212; if they had been Muslims, they would have been meeting with the school&#8217;s permission and would be joined by faculty and staff and have a budget from the taxpayer funds to pay for their activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If they had been Muslims it would have been just fine, of course.&quot;  Too true!  The People&#039;s Republik of Washington does a disservice to its namesake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If they had been Muslims it would have been just fine, of course.&#8221;  Too true!  The People&#8217;s Republik of Washington does a disservice to its namesake.</p>
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