Remove the Cross, March on the Dildo-Waving Hookers
Posted on February 16, 2007
According to Gene Nichol, president of William and Mary, leaving the cross on display in Wren Chapel where it had been for decades is “…contrary to the best values of the college.”
So what are the “best values” of the college? Career male prostitutes and 200-lb. strippers in thong and pasties naturally!
Virginia Gazette: Sex show draws crowd
WILLIAMSBURG — Topless women weren’t the only thing keeping students at the College of William & Mary focused Monday night at the Sex Workers Art Show.
Sparkling nipple adornments, feather boas, bare bottoms, erotic dances, striptease music and sex toys entertained a crowd of more than 400 who were packed into the auditorium of the University Center. Another 300 were turned away. The show attempted to empower the actors by portraying the realities of their careers.
Jo Weldon shared her story of how a stripper job helped pay her way through college and graduate school. She regaled the audience by doing a skit that revealed the questions strippers commonly face. She used a male student to ask the questions.
“Are they real?” he asked.
“Real expensive,” she answered.
Other performances were more risque.
A woman named Dirty Martini did a striptease. Weighing in at well over 200 pounds, she finished her routine wearing only a G-string and pasties.
Cono Snatch Zubobinskaya, clad initially in military fatigues, gave a theatrical performance that included a dildo shaped like a gun. Her anti-war message was that sexual favors would be given if “doing so can end the war. Just don’t force me.”
“It’s just so out there and expressive,” said Josh Campbell, a member of Lamba Alliance, one of six student groups to sponsor the event. “It’s hip, it’s in your face, and it’s exciting.”
Exciting AND brilliant! “Snatch” is a “Must See TV.” (heh-heh) Yeah right. The intellectual cesspool called the university campus is producing some real winners. Anyone care to tell me what one would “learn” from this pathetic event?
Nichol responds:
President Gene Nichol issued a statement Tuesday afternoon, perhaps hoping to preempt inevitable criticism tied to the Wren cross.
“I don’t like this kind of show and I don’t like having it here,” he said. “But it’s not the practice and province of universities to censor or cancel performances because they are controversial.”
But it is the “practice and province” to censor the historical realities of a building on campus even if decidedly uncontroversial…uncontroversial, of course, until a man who’s obviously experienced significant cranial voidance took the reigns of America’s second-oldest university, the first president of which was one Reverend James Blair. Gasp! Purge the word “reverend” from all historical chronologies of the college lest we create an “inside/outsider” dynamic on campus. A reverend as the first president demonstrates that all are not welcome, right?
Regarding Wren Chapel, I’ve got some questions. Why still call it a chapel? After all, the word “chapel” is normally associated with Christian worship. Certainly not representative of the “best values” of William and Mary, right? Shouldn’t that word be used only when referring to specific religious services? Should it be called the 123rd Holiest Mosque on the Eastern Seaboard during Ramadan?
Thanks to Save the Wren Cross for the alert.
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So, you’re saying that censorship is appropriate except when directed at Christian symbology?
Let’s put aside that W&M is a publicly funded university and focus instead on historical accuracy. The “Wren Cross” was not installed until the late 30’s/early 40’s when the Episcopalians down the road decided their’s wasn’t big and/or shiny enough. Actually, the overwhelming prominence of crosses in Protestant churches in the New World is a relatively recent phenomenon. It’s removal actually enhances the “historical realities” of the building.
Let’s be fair here. It’s not like Nichol has forbidden prayer and banned Christmas on the campus. He explicitly stated that the cross could be returned on request for events and later agreed to compromise by having the cross reinstalled on Sundays. How is that not reasonable? Why is this unacceptable?
I’m not exactly sure how the naughty art show fits into your argument since it was not sponsored by the college, but put on by several student groups. Student groups also host prayer services that the college neither sponsors nor censors. Do you see where I’m leading? The college represents itself very carefully, but it allows it’s students to represent themselves very freely. Those who have a problems with William & Mary, as you’ve outlined, have the very excellent option of sending their children up the road to that bastion of intellectual excellence, Liberty University. But in Williamsburg, the benefit to open diversity outweighs any feelings of overblown persecution.
Hey, Cara left the same comment on my blog. I’m hurt. I thought we had something special. It turns out that she does it with all the bloggers out there. Well, I guess you had to expect that. Sex workers aren’t exactly discriminating. I replied in much greater detail at my blog in the comments.
“So, you’re saying that censorship is appropriate except when directed at Christian symbology? ”
Nope. Find where I said that and you win the cupie doll.
“The “Wren Cross†was not installed until the late 30’s/early 40’s”
If you notice, I said “decades” in my post. Strike two for you sweetie.
“overwhelming prominence of crosses in Protestant churches in the New World is a relatively recent phenomenon. It’s removal actually enhances the “historical realities†of the building.”
We are talking about A cross, not an “overwhelming prominence.” Although I’m sure with vampiresses like you, a single cross in walkie-talkie range and a whiff of Luigi’s garlic breath, your brain would shrivel like a prime hog within gnashing distance of Rosie O’Donnell.
“Why is this unacceptable?”
Because a cross has always been displayed at the CHAPEL, hello, CHAPEL, and this one had been there with no problem until Nichol decided to create the dust up by removing it for no good reason. I find it funny that people like me who defend the status quo, which has brought harm to no one (no, it is not a violation of the Establishment Clause to display a cross in a chapel, please don’t look silly by contending such an idiocy), and people like you promote radical transformation, yet we are accused of trying to “impose” something on society.
“naughty art show”
Art show? ART SHOW? This country is losing its mind. A fat chick prancing around stage and a homosexual prostitute running his mouth qualifies as ART?
“was not sponsored by the college”
Survey says…XXX. Student fees were used to fund a portion of the “art show.”
“Those who have a problems with William & Mary, as you’ve outlined, have the very excellent option of sending their children up the road to that bastion of intellectual excellence, Liberty University”
Oh, you mean, it’s your way or get the “eff” out, right. So tolerant.
“that bastion of intellectual excellence, Liberty University”
Oh, you mean the school with one of the top-ranked debating teams in the nation?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11078887/site/newsweek/
“the benefit to open diversity outweighs any feelings of overblown persecution.”
Not sure if I’ve ever read anything as meaningless as this sentence. Care to elaborate?
“So, you’re saying that censorship is appropriate except when directed at Christian symbology?”
So you’re saying censorship is appropriate especially when directed at Christian symbology.
Sweetie, you better come with more than this next time, cause you just got Punk’d.
Glib Fortuna connects with a roundhouse kick to the head and Cara is down!
Liberals just get wackier and wackier don’t they? Bizare and ugly, demeaning shows with sexually vulgar protrayals are just fine on this campus but a Christian cross is not. Isn’t that great?
I know a young woman who has applied to Wm and Mary; she and her family are waiting to hear if she got in.
I don’t think her parents are going to be too pleased with this news.
Just wacky.
Cupie doll? Punk’d? Did you mean pwned? What are you like an octogenarian? Who talks like that?
No, you didn’t say that explicitly, but the tone of your writing implied that was how you felt; that the cross should have stayed and that the gross icky queers should have been the ones to go. But I can tell you’re angry, old timer. Your formatting is getting messy.
I noticed you said, “decades” but I was merely highlighting that fact as your readers may have been misled to believe that the cross represented a significant piece of colonial history, which it doesn’t.
Although I’m sure with vampiresses like you, a single cross in walkie-talkie range and a whiff of Luigi’s garlic breath, your brain would shrivel like a prime hog within gnashing distance of Rosie O’Donnell.
Incoherent and ad hominem. Nice. Very nice. That must mean that I won the argument. I’m just having so much fun, though. You write like Mr. Burns on “The Simpsons.” It’s really cute. But still, at your age, you should not be high on crystal meth, sir.
Because a cross has always been displayed at the CHAPEL, hello, CHAPEL, and this one had been there with no problem until Nichol decided to create the dust up by removing it for no good reason.
Hello. About 50 miles West of Williamsburg there is an interfaith chapel at the Richmond International Airport. There’s a cross in it, but it’s displayed as a medallion alongside others of equal size representing various other world religions. It’s a very nice space. I’m sure there are thousands of non-faith-specific chapels throughout the country. The term chapel does not necessitate Christian exclusivity.
While I’m not sure if a student comment prompted the original removal, Nichol stated that several students have thanked him for making the Wren Chapel a more welcoming space.
And again, I will reiterate that while perhaps mishandled at first, a terrific compromise was reached in the matter; the cross is placed every Sunday, all day long and is available for placement at any other time whenever anyone asks. There is no problem here. The problem was imagined by people who are appalled that someone who packs an ACLU card would ever be made president of the College.
homosexual prostitute running his mouth
Now we get into the nitty-gritty. The fags are taking over. Why won’t they shut up? Oh no. Stop. They’re coming with swatches. It’s going to be fabulous. Help. Please. Somebody…
Student fees were used to fund a portion of the “art show.â€
Student fees have gone to far more evil things. Things such as the William & Mary Basketball program of Doom; covering World’s Most Evil Man and former College Chancellor, Henry Kissinger’s travel expenses to and from the campus; those gawdawful mandatory diversity/tolerance workshops they make the freshmen take, et al.
Yeah, Liberty U! Go there! If you want a college president of the cloth, the Reverend Falwell will be happy to take your money. I say this not because I am intolerant of your religion, I am intolerant of your ignorance. I only knock LU for their commitment to what the dept. of biology characterizes as, “freedom and willingness to explore non-Darwinian explanations for the origin of life.” Needless to say, they DO NOT have a geology department. Point being: You can have the best debate team in history but all the good it will do those who are openly hostile toward the most basic empirical truths. That is, Methuselah, unless you agree with the Young Earth “hypothesis” in which case, point doubly made.
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Oh, excuse me. I was just on the ACLU’s inter-page… giving them money, at least twenty of my dollars. I am now a Card-Carrying Member (TM) and I hope you’re happy because, “You’re my Inspir-ation!” Your cause actually took a step backwards today. Good work.
Game. Set. Match… Pwnage.
There’s a party at my place. Come on over!
Oh, excuse me. I was just on the ACLU’s inter-page… giving them money, at least twenty of my dollars. I am now a Card-Carrying Member ™
“A fool and her money are soon parted”
and I hope you’re happy because, “You’re my Inspir-ation!†Your cause actually took a step backwards today. Good work.
If I were the ACLU, I wouldn’t take much satisfaction in knowing that it took the oppositions’ “cause” to motivate you to become a member, rather than standing on your own liberal, Atheist convictions and supporting them rather than opposing us.
We didn’t lose anything and they haven’t gained anything.
It’s a wash!
Strange to the liberals where executing convicted killers is immoral but killing the unborn and elderly folk is perfectly a-okay.
it was you Americans in your enthuisiastic American Revolution who invented the secular, god-less state and enshrined the principle of the separation of church and state into your constitution. In the United Kingdom, whose rule you bloodily rejected, we have the monarch, then the archbishop of Canterbury and then this frightful chap called the prime minister, who is third in the ranks, third, after the church. That was the case during the reign of George III and it is still the case now. The country you live in was founded on explicitly secular principles, fact.