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	<title>Comments on: School has &#8220;legitimate state interest&#8221; in teaching the homosexual lifestyle, parents have no choice</title>
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		<title>By: x</title>
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		<dc:creator>x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was David Parker, I&#039;d compile a book with the title, something like &quot;gay people spread AIDS&quot;, &quot;Homosexuality: sick sinners from hell&quot;, &quot;Homosex: not just for White folks anymore&quot;, &quot;Promoting homosexuality in the black/minority communities&quot;, etc., make at the local printery, and have the son pull that out whenever the &#039;king and king&#039; book was utilized...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was David Parker, I&#8217;d compile a book with the title, something like &#8220;gay people spread AIDS&#8221;, &#8220;Homosexuality: sick sinners from hell&#8221;, &#8220;Homosex: not just for White folks anymore&#8221;, &#8220;Promoting homosexuality in the black/minority communities&#8221;, etc., make at the local printery, and have the son pull that out whenever the &#8216;king and king&#8217; book was utilized&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to know where &quot;CitizenUSA&quot; gets his/her information.  By saying that the highest concentrations of homosexuals exist in prisons it&#039;s obvious that he/she is trying to imply (and lead the reader to conclude) that homosexuals are more likely to be criminals.  Nice try... but most sex in prison is situational.   Most sex is occurring between heterosexual men because they&#039;ve been removed from society (and women).  It&#039;s important to understand the difference between homosexual orientation and situational homosexual behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to know where &#8220;CitizenUSA&#8221; gets his/her information.  By saying that the highest concentrations of homosexuals exist in prisons it&#8217;s obvious that he/she is trying to imply (and lead the reader to conclude) that homosexuals are more likely to be criminals.  Nice try&#8230; but most sex in prison is situational.   Most sex is occurring between heterosexual men because they&#8217;ve been removed from society (and women).  It&#8217;s important to understand the difference between homosexual orientation and situational homosexual behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenUSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(1)	Homosexuals within a given society over large period of time have never been historically uniformly present above one percent; instead this trait â€œspikesâ€ in population from one to ten percent but only under certain circumstancesâ€™; high population, lots of leisure time, wealth, and political freedom. The highest known concentrations of population of homosexuals occur in prisons; coincidently prisons hold the highest concentrations of populations of several other categories of deviant behavior.
(2)	Homosexuals who have received counseling are no longer homosexuals.
(3)	Homosexuals cannot reproduce and when they infrequently do with opposite sex partners, the resulting offspring are no more likely to be homosexual than the society at large.
(4)	Scientists have not found any directly inheritable genetic evidence for homosexuality.

Historical demographics shows this to be true, medical counseling demonstrates this condition is non-physical, biological limits prevent genetic traits from being passed on, and the remaining whole of scientific evidence fails to show otherwise; homosexuality is a behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1)	Homosexuals within a given society over large period of time have never been historically uniformly present above one percent; instead this trait â€œspikesâ€ in population from one to ten percent but only under certain circumstancesâ€™; high population, lots of leisure time, wealth, and political freedom. The highest known concentrations of population of homosexuals occur in prisons; coincidently prisons hold the highest concentrations of populations of several other categories of deviant behavior.<br />
(2)	Homosexuals who have received counseling are no longer homosexuals.<br />
(3)	Homosexuals cannot reproduce and when they infrequently do with opposite sex partners, the resulting offspring are no more likely to be homosexual than the society at large.<br />
(4)	Scientists have not found any directly inheritable genetic evidence for homosexuality.</p>
<p>Historical demographics shows this to be true, medical counseling demonstrates this condition is non-physical, biological limits prevent genetic traits from being passed on, and the remaining whole of scientific evidence fails to show otherwise; homosexuality is a behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenUSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CitizenUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morally deviant behavior, practiced by a few, does not automatically imply or prove that the practitioners were born that way nor therefore does it automatically translate into Civil Rights laws achieving &quot;privileged class&quot; minority status. In fact, there are several strong verifiable reasons which imply they were not born that way; overwhelmingly so.

Can one person be counseled and change their gender or race? Yes or no?
Can one homosexual person be counseled and change to a heterosexual? Yes or no?
See the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morally deviant behavior, practiced by a few, does not automatically imply or prove that the practitioners were born that way nor therefore does it automatically translate into Civil Rights laws achieving &#8220;privileged class&#8221; minority status. In fact, there are several strong verifiable reasons which imply they were not born that way; overwhelmingly so.</p>
<p>Can one person be counseled and change their gender or race? Yes or no?<br />
Can one homosexual person be counseled and change to a heterosexual? Yes or no?<br />
See the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenUSA</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2007/02/15/school-has-legitimate-state-interest-in-teaching-the-homosexual-lifestyle-parents-have-no-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-61690</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œACLU (Incorrectly) Says that a Homosexual Teaching Curriculum is a â€œLegitimate State Interestâ€â€

This position assumes, incorrectly, that homosexual behavior is a directly inherited condition; such as race or gender, eye color,...etc. and as such this incorrect assumption leads to further confusion by insinuating that &quot;privileged class&quot; of minority status already applies, which it most certainly does not as this status is reserved for directly inherited conditions with minority protections.

This is easily shown not to be a directly inherited condition; scientifically, in peer reviewed studies, repeated with the same results. Homosexual identical twin studies prove whether raised together (data inherently includes many environmental similarities and associations) and those raised apart clearly show that both twins are not necessarily homosexual, especially considering the standard for twins pertaining to race (identical twins are always born of the same race; no exceptions) or gender (identical twins are always born of the same gender; no exceptions). This is only one such point; there are many studies which strongly point to this condition, homosexuality, is a behavior.</description>
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<p>This position assumes, incorrectly, that homosexual behavior is a directly inherited condition; such as race or gender, eye color,&#8230;etc. and as such this incorrect assumption leads to further confusion by insinuating that &#8220;privileged class&#8221; of minority status already applies, which it most certainly does not as this status is reserved for directly inherited conditions with minority protections.</p>
<p>This is easily shown not to be a directly inherited condition; scientifically, in peer reviewed studies, repeated with the same results. Homosexual identical twin studies prove whether raised together (data inherently includes many environmental similarities and associations) and those raised apart clearly show that both twins are not necessarily homosexual, especially considering the standard for twins pertaining to race (identical twins are always born of the same race; no exceptions) or gender (identical twins are always born of the same gender; no exceptions). This is only one such point; there are many studies which strongly point to this condition, homosexuality, is a behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo's Cafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo's Cafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stop the ACLU Blogburst&lt;/strong&gt;


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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
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		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The school board, which is representative government decided to include this particular lesson in the curriculum.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s your claim, substantiate it by showing anywhere, that people voted the homosexual agenda into the public schools.


&lt;i&gt;Yes, and those acts are still generally considered to be illegal. Homosexuality, while still considered immoral by many, is not considered illegal if it is between consenting adults.&lt;/i&gt;


Technically yes. &lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt; don&#039;t recognize or accept that, anymore than I recognize or accept SCOTUS&#039; decisions concerning the &quot;Separation of Church and State&quot;, &quot;Gun Rights&quot;, &quot;Sodomy&quot;, &quot;Roe v. Wade&quot;, and &quot;Eminent Domain&quot;. The Supreme Court doesn&#039;t take mine away and I sure as hell don&#039;t surrender them!


&lt;i&gt;Please clarify. Iâ€™m not sure what you were trying to say.&lt;/i&gt;

Then I&#039;ll rephrase it.

Unlike your understanding and practice of &quot;tolerance&quot;, mine is specific and defined, not relative.
Scripture is unequivocal and details when and to what we are to be tolerant and what not to tolerate. The homosexual act and lifestyle is not to be tolerated.

Phelps and his ilk, twists Scripture to serve him and his hatred. He hates the homosexual act, lifestyle and homosexuals.(and basically everything and everyone)

I&#039;ll assume you were not trying to be clever and try to box me in with the &quot;Phelps&quot;, &quot;tolerance&quot; remark. But it does look that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The school board, which is representative government decided to include this particular lesson in the curriculum.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s your claim, substantiate it by showing anywhere, that people voted the homosexual agenda into the public schools.</p>
<p><i>Yes, and those acts are still generally considered to be illegal. Homosexuality, while still considered immoral by many, is not considered illegal if it is between consenting adults.</i></p>
<p>Technically yes. <b>I</b> don&#8217;t recognize or accept that, anymore than I recognize or accept SCOTUS&#8217; decisions concerning the &#8220;Separation of Church and State&#8221;, &#8220;Gun Rights&#8221;, &#8220;Sodomy&#8221;, &#8220;Roe v. Wade&#8221;, and &#8220;Eminent Domain&#8221;. The Supreme Court doesn&#8217;t take mine away and I sure as hell don&#8217;t surrender them!</p>
<p><i>Please clarify. Iâ€™m not sure what you were trying to say.</i></p>
<p>Then I&#8217;ll rephrase it.</p>
<p>Unlike your understanding and practice of &#8220;tolerance&#8221;, mine is specific and defined, not relative.<br />
Scripture is unequivocal and details when and to what we are to be tolerant and what not to tolerate. The homosexual act and lifestyle is not to be tolerated.</p>
<p>Phelps and his ilk, twists Scripture to serve him and his hatred. He hates the homosexual act, lifestyle and homosexuals.(and basically everything and everyone)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll assume you were not trying to be clever and try to box me in with the &#8220;Phelps&#8221;, &#8220;tolerance&#8221; remark. But it does look that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stop the ACLU &lt;/strong&gt;

Remove the Cross, March on the Dildo-Waving Hookers, from Stop the ACLU According to Gene Nichol, president of William and Mary, leaving the cross on display in Wren Chapel where it had been for decades is â€œâ€¦contrary to the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stop the ACLU </strong></p>
<p>Remove the Cross, March on the Dildo-Waving Hookers, from Stop the ACLU According to Gene Nichol, president of William and Mary, leaving the cross on display in Wren Chapel where it had been for decades is â€œâ€¦contrary to the best</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;STACLU Blogburst&lt;/strong&gt;

This is disgusting.  You can&#039;t teach traditional family because it&#039;s discriminatory, but you can teach children about the &quot;homosexual lifestyle&quot;.  Massawhatisit is anot ...</description>
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<p>This is disgusting.  You can&#8217;t teach traditional family because it&#8217;s discriminatory, but you can teach children about the &#8220;homosexual lifestyle&#8221;.  Massawhatisit is anot &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Star Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Star Chronicles</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;School has â€œlegitimate state interestâ€ in teaching the homosexual lifestyle, parents have no choice&lt;/strong&gt;

WorldNetDaily
Lawyers representing a Massachusetts school district named as a defendant in a parent&#8217;s civil rights complaint have said teachers at Estabrook Elementary School have a &#8220;legitimate state interest&#8221; in teaching the homosexu...</description>
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<p>WorldNetDaily<br />
Lawyers representing a Massachusetts school district named as a defendant in a parent&#38;#8217;s civil rights complaint have said teachers at Estabrook Elementary School have a &#38;#8220;legitimate state interest&#38;#8221; in teaching the homosexu&#8230;</p>
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