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	<title>Comments on: Illegals to Get GPS Locators, CA Rep Introduces Enforcement Bills</title>
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		<title>By: wolfwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit Jarrell wrote:

&lt;i&gt;The 14th Amendment was not written to ensure blanket citizenship to anyone born here regardless of parental immigration status.&lt;/i&gt;

and

&lt;i&gt;Since the court recognized that the children of foreign citizens and diplomats should not be granted US citizenship, why should anyone think that the children of those that enter the US illegally are subject to the jurisdiction of the US government?&lt;/i&gt;

Children of foreign diplomats are covered by international treaties on the rules of diplomatic relations, which have equivalent weight to the 14th Amendment.  It&#039;s true that the 14th Amendment was aimed primarily at former slaves and their children.  But that isn&#039;t what it says.  It simply says &quot;All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.&quot;  No limits in either time or ancestry.  In simple terms, that means &quot;born here = citizen here.&quot;  And that&#039;s the way it&#039;s been enforced for a hundred years.  No legislature or court is going to change that now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit Jarrell wrote:</p>
<p><i>The 14th Amendment was not written to ensure blanket citizenship to anyone born here regardless of parental immigration status.</i></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><i>Since the court recognized that the children of foreign citizens and diplomats should not be granted US citizenship, why should anyone think that the children of those that enter the US illegally are subject to the jurisdiction of the US government?</i></p>
<p>Children of foreign diplomats are covered by international treaties on the rules of diplomatic relations, which have equivalent weight to the 14th Amendment.  It&#8217;s true that the 14th Amendment was aimed primarily at former slaves and their children.  But that isn&#8217;t what it says.  It simply says &#8220;All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.&#8221;  No limits in either time or ancestry.  In simple terms, that means &#8220;born here = citizen here.&#8221;  And that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s been enforced for a hundred years.  No legislature or court is going to change that now.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit Jarrell,

Thank you for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit Jarrell,</p>
<p>Thank you for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit Jarrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kit Jarrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, wolfwalker, that widely-held belief is false.  The 14th Amendment was not written to ensure blanket citizenship to anyone born here regardless of parental immigration status.  You can read more here.

http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/07/the-bastardization-of-the-american-constitution/

In the meantime, just read this part:

In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard wrote, â€œThis will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors, or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.â€ Senator Howard wrote the addition phrase specifically because he wanted to make it clear that the simple accident of birth in the US is not sufficient to justify citizenship.

    The US Supreme Court recognized this when they ruled in 1873 that the phrase (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) excluded â€œchildren of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States.â€ Since the court recognized that the children of foreign citizens and diplomats should not be granted US citizenship, why should anyone think that the children of those that enter the US illegally are subject to the jurisdiction of the US government? The simple answer is no thinking person would. The anchor baby parents are neither US citizens, subject to US jurisdiction, nor do they owe any allegiance to the US. Federal immigration laws require aliens to renounce all allegiance to any foreign government and to support the US Constitution to become citizens. The parents of anchor babies never fulfilled this obligation and were never â€œsubject to the jurisdictionâ€ of the US.

    Both the author of the 14th Amendment and the US Supreme Court recognized that an alien mother and her baby are subject to the jurisdiction of their native country - not the US. The 14th Amendment wasnâ€™t created to provide an end run for aliens to defy US immigration laws. But politicians have subverted the Constitution and allowed citizenship to any child born in the US. This misinterpretation is not accidental - it is intentional. An error of this magnitude could not be accidental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, wolfwalker, that widely-held belief is false.  The 14th Amendment was not written to ensure blanket citizenship to anyone born here regardless of parental immigration status.  You can read more here.</p>
<p><a href="http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/07/the-bastardization-of-the-american-constitution/" rel="nofollow">http://euphoricreality.com/2007/01/07/the-bastardization-of-the-american-constitution/</a></p>
<p>In the meantime, just read this part:</p>
<p>In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard wrote, â€œThis will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors, or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.â€ Senator Howard wrote the addition phrase specifically because he wanted to make it clear that the simple accident of birth in the US is not sufficient to justify citizenship.</p>
<p>    The US Supreme Court recognized this when they ruled in 1873 that the phrase (and subject to the jurisdiction thereof) excluded â€œchildren of ministers, consuls, and citizens of foreign states born within the United States.â€ Since the court recognized that the children of foreign citizens and diplomats should not be granted US citizenship, why should anyone think that the children of those that enter the US illegally are subject to the jurisdiction of the US government? The simple answer is no thinking person would. The anchor baby parents are neither US citizens, subject to US jurisdiction, nor do they owe any allegiance to the US. Federal immigration laws require aliens to renounce all allegiance to any foreign government and to support the US Constitution to become citizens. The parents of anchor babies never fulfilled this obligation and were never â€œsubject to the jurisdictionâ€ of the US.</p>
<p>    Both the author of the 14th Amendment and the US Supreme Court recognized that an alien mother and her baby are subject to the jurisdiction of their native country &#8211; not the US. The 14th Amendment wasnâ€™t created to provide an end run for aliens to defy US immigration laws. But politicians have subverted the Constitution and allowed citizenship to any child born in the US. This misinterpretation is not accidental &#8211; it is intentional. An error of this magnitude could not be accidental.</p>
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		<title>By: wolfwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Galleglyâ€™s Citizenship Reform Act of 2007 would bring U.S. laws into line with virtually every other nation by requiring that at least one parent be a citizen or permanent resident for a child to automatically become a citizen. &lt;/i&gt;

This one is guaranteed DOA.  The 14th Amendment says that anyone born in the United States is a US citizen, period.  Immigration status of the parents doesn&#039;t matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Galleglyâ€™s Citizenship Reform Act of 2007 would bring U.S. laws into line with virtually every other nation by requiring that at least one parent be a citizen or permanent resident for a child to automatically become a citizen. </i></p>
<p>This one is guaranteed DOA.  The 14th Amendment says that anyone born in the United States is a US citizen, period.  Immigration status of the parents doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with the Mexicans buying GPS locators? Don&#039;t they work both ways? They seem to be pretty good at navigating the terrain anyways, so the GPS signals would probably help us more than them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with the Mexicans buying GPS locators? Don&#8217;t they work both ways? They seem to be pretty good at navigating the terrain anyways, so the GPS signals would probably help us more than them.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dogs Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dogs Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More News about Illegals&lt;/strong&gt;

The national guard of the states are here to protect us and to serve when called to active duty.  They are not able to perform those duties if they are forced to follow the same stupid Rules of Engagement that we make the troops in Iraq follow.  Nation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More News about Illegals</strong></p>
<p>The national guard of the states are here to protect us and to serve when called to active duty.  They are not able to perform those duties if they are forced to follow the same stupid Rules of Engagement that we make the troops in Iraq follow.  Nation&#8230;</p>
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