Comments on: ACLU continues to define “torture” down…and down…and down http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:23:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Clay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60297 Clay Sat, 23 Dec 2006 05:40:49 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60297 It has been not unnoticed that Jeff has been silent here. Telling? It has been not unnoticed that Jeff has been silent here. Telling?

]]> By: TCRA - The Christian Right http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60298 TCRA - The Christian Right Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:13:26 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60298 [...] Well it looks like the ACLU keeps trying to lower the standards of the definition of torture. I found this post over at Stop the ACLU, apparently the ACLU has now included blind folds and noise canceling headphones as methods of torture. We are supposed to bend over backwards for these terrorists, and uphold the “geneva convention”, which doesn’t even apply to them because they don’t belong to a country or wear a uniform, unless you call dynamite strapped across your chest a uniform. This is really getting out of hand. NEW YORK - As Robert Gates was sworn in today, the American Civil Liberties Union called on the new Secretary of Defense to launch an investigation into cruel and inhuman methods used on prisoners in U.S. custody. Among the methods being denounced by the ACLU are sensory deprivation techniques recently shown to be used on Jose Padilla, including blacked-out goggles and headphones that block sound. [...] [...] Well it looks like the ACLU keeps trying to lower the standards of the definition of torture. I found this post over at Stop the ACLU, apparently the ACLU has now included blind folds and noise canceling headphones as methods of torture. We are supposed to bend over backwards for these terrorists, and uphold the “geneva convention”, which doesn’t even apply to them because they don’t belong to a country or wear a uniform, unless you call dynamite strapped across your chest a uniform. This is really getting out of hand. NEW YORK – As Robert Gates was sworn in today, the American Civil Liberties Union called on the new Secretary of Defense to launch an investigation into cruel and inhuman methods used on prisoners in U.S. custody. Among the methods being denounced by the ACLU are sensory deprivation techniques recently shown to be used on Jose Padilla, including blacked-out goggles and headphones that block sound. [...]

]]> By: Pajamas Media http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60299 Pajamas Media Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:08:39 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60299 <strong>Like The Constitutional Version of Goldilocks And The Three Bears:</strong> "The ACLU is demanding that terrorists never get too hot nor too cold, it never be too loud nor too silent, too bright nor too dark, never stand in one place for too long, are never subjected to 'culturally inappropriate'... Like The Constitutional Version of Goldilocks And The Three Bears:

“The ACLU is demanding that terrorists never get too hot nor too cold, it never be too loud nor too silent, too bright nor too dark, never stand in one place for too long, are never subjected to ‘culturally inappropriate’…

]]> By: kerwin_brown http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60300 kerwin_brown Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:39:56 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60300 I would not say these actions violate the U.S. Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment as water boarding and solitary confinement as well as other actions deemed torture by the ACLU was allowed by our Founders. If they are applying the law forbidding "torture" passed by Congress then they may have a case as Congress does have the power to regulate the administrative branch. I would not say these actions violate the U.S. Constitution’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment as water boarding and solitary confinement as well as other actions deemed torture by the ACLU was allowed by our Founders.

If they are applying the law forbidding “torture” passed by Congress then they may have a case as Congress does have the power to regulate the administrative branch.

]]> By: Clay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60301 Clay Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:38:54 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60301 "They followed it shortly with this more reasonable statement. His attorneys stated that Padilla was given drugs against his will, believed to be some form of LSD and PCP intended to act a truth serum. Additionally, he was subjected to extreme isolation with no natural light, sleep deprivation, and had little opportunity for human contact. Such conditions, when compounded by sensory deprivation devices, may constitute torture, said the ACLU." So, getting the truth out of this terrorist that could save hundreds or thousands of lives is somehow wrongful torture. What's next, his right to keep his deadly secrets? Come on, Jeff. We are at war with bloodthirsty murders who want our annihalation (sp?)? jinxmchue, It could not have been put a better way. “They followed it shortly with this more reasonable statement.

His attorneys stated that Padilla was given drugs against his will, believed to be some form of LSD and PCP intended to act a truth serum. Additionally, he was subjected to extreme isolation with no natural light, sleep deprivation, and had little opportunity for human contact. Such conditions, when compounded by sensory deprivation devices, may constitute torture, said the ACLU.”

So, getting the truth out of this terrorist that could save hundreds or thousands of lives is somehow wrongful torture. What’s next, his right to keep his deadly secrets?

Come on, Jeff. We are at war with bloodthirsty murders who want our annihalation (sp?)?

jinxmchue,

It could not have been put a better way.

]]> By: Revealing The ACLU - Standing Up Against the Greatest Overt Attack in American History &#187; ACLU takes aim at the new Secretary of Defense http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60302 Revealing The ACLU - Standing Up Against the Greatest Overt Attack in American History &#187; ACLU takes aim at the new Secretary of Defense Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:44:08 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60302 [...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Leave aReply [...] [...] You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Leave aReply [...]

]]> By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60303 Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:45:00 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60303 <strong>Gates set to take over Pentagon</strong> Robert Gates is taking over as secretary of defense at a crucial juncture in the Iraq war, a conflic Gates set to take over Pentagon

Robert Gates is taking over as secretary of defense at a crucial juncture in the Iraq war, a conflic

]]> By: amnestyusa http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60304 amnestyusa Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:29:59 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60304 Your comment has been deleted due to linking for soliciting donations to Amnesty International. Lobo Your comment has been deleted due to linking for soliciting donations to Amnesty International.

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]]> By: jinxmchue http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60305 jinxmchue Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:08:15 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60305 Wow. Just wow. Can we call them traitors now??? "So what CAN be done when interrogating terrorists, ACLU?" I suspect that: a) the ACLU thinks imprisoning them is "cruel and inhuman" b) they think calling them "terrorists" is "cruel and inhuman" c) they think asking them questions is "cruel and inhuman" The only thing the ACLU wants is for these terrorists to be freed and never captured, injured or killed ever again no matter what they do to anyone else. d) the think that even looking at these terrorists funny is "cruel and inhuman" Wow. Just wow. Can we call them traitors now???

“So what CAN be done when interrogating terrorists, ACLU?”

I suspect that:

a) the ACLU thinks imprisoning them is “cruel and inhuman”
b) they think calling them “terrorists” is “cruel and inhuman”
c) they think asking them questions is “cruel and inhuman”

The only thing the ACLU wants is for these terrorists to be freed and never captured, injured or killed ever again no matter what they do to anyone else.
d) the think that even looking at these terrorists funny is “cruel and inhuman”

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/comment-page-1/#comment-60306 Jeff Molby Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:43:45 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/12/18/aclu-continues-to-define-torture-downand-downand-down/#comment-60306 <blockquote>Among the methods being denounced by the ACLU are sensory deprivation techniques recently shown to be used on Jose Padilla, including blacked-out goggles and headphones that block sound.</blockquote> Yeah, that sentence is pretty silly. It doesn't seem to be the core of their position though. They followed it shortly with this more reasonable statement. <blockquote>His attorneys stated that Padilla was given drugs against his will, believed to be some form of LSD and PCP intended to act a truth serum. Additionally, he was subjected to extreme isolation with no natural light, sleep deprivation, and had little opportunity for human contact. Such conditions, when compounded by sensory deprivation devices, may constitute torture, said the ACLU. </blockquote>

Among the methods being denounced by the ACLU are sensory deprivation techniques recently shown to be used on Jose Padilla, including blacked-out goggles and headphones that block sound.

Yeah, that sentence is pretty silly. It doesn’t seem to be the core of their position though. They followed it shortly with this more reasonable statement.

His attorneys stated that Padilla was given drugs against his will, believed to be some form of LSD and PCP intended to act a truth serum. Additionally, he was subjected to extreme isolation with no natural light, sleep deprivation, and had little opportunity for human contact. Such conditions, when compounded by sensory deprivation devices, may constitute torture, said the ACLU.

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