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	<title>Comments on: Keith Ellison Wants To Swear His Oath On The Koran</title>
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		<title>By: Bobwr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobwr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole think about Mr. Ellison taking the oath on the Koran is baloney.

Members of Congress don&#039;t take the oath by placing their hand on a holy book.  They stand up and raise their hand as the speaker reads the oath.  A &quot;good book&quot; is not used.

This rumor smells a lot like rightwing baloney because it&#039;s their blogs and websites that are spreading it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole think about Mr. Ellison taking the oath on the Koran is baloney.</p>
<p>Members of Congress don&#8217;t take the oath by placing their hand on a holy book.  They stand up and raise their hand as the speaker reads the oath.  A &#8220;good book&#8221; is not used.</p>
<p>This rumor smells a lot like rightwing baloney because it&#8217;s their blogs and websites that are spreading it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mensa Barbie Welcomes You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;An Oath to Our Nation...&lt;/strong&gt;

We wouldn&#039;t need to know about the CAIR lawyer&#039;s religious preference, if he wasn&#039;t intending to fulfill their governmental court cases. It&#039;s not &quot;which book&quot;, it&#039;s the OATH which commits one to our Nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>An Oath to Our Nation&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>We wouldn&#8217;t need to know about the CAIR lawyer&#8217;s religious preference, if he wasn&#8217;t intending to fulfill their governmental court cases. It&#8217;s not &#8220;which book&#8221;, it&#8217;s the OATH which commits one to our Nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dennis Prager Dead Wrong On Ellison &#38;#38; Koran&lt;/strong&gt;

Now I don&#039;t make a secret of the fact that I am not a big fan of Islam. Indeed, it concerns me that more Muslims and Islamic institutions don&#039;t stand up and take a hardline stance against terrorism. And I...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dennis Prager Dead Wrong On Ellison &#38;#38;#38; Koran</strong></p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t make a secret of the fact that I am not a big fan of Islam. Indeed, it concerns me that more Muslims and Islamic institutions don&#8217;t stand up and take a hardline stance against terrorism. And I&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I pledge allegiance to........&lt;/strong&gt;

Yes, I&#039;ve decided that I want to take my oath of office on not one, but TWO books that I consider to be very, very important: Action Comics #1, which introduced Superman to the world, and Detective Comics #27 in which the world was introduced to Batm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I pledge allegiance to&#8230;&#8230;..</strong></p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve decided that I want to take my oath of office on not one, but TWO books that I consider to be very, very important: Action Comics #1, which introduced Superman to the world, and Detective Comics #27 in which the world was introduced to Batm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“my culture trumps America’s culture. What Ellison and his Muslim and leftist supporters are saying is that it is of no consequence what America holds as its holiest book; all that matters is what any individual holds to be his holiest book. “ Quoted by Jay

This is not a cultural issue and it is deceptive to make it one.  This is a religious tolerance issue.  The question is whether or not Ellison should be allowed to exercise his free expression of religion.  The government should not be compelled to purchase a Koran because Ellison’s religion has insignificant numbers of adherents in Congress.  Even if a person looked at it as a cultural issue the United States culture is about religious tolerance.

I see that is Jay‘s point..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“my culture trumps America’s culture. What Ellison and his Muslim and leftist supporters are saying is that it is of no consequence what America holds as its holiest book; all that matters is what any individual holds to be his holiest book. “ Quoted by Jay</p>
<p>This is not a cultural issue and it is deceptive to make it one.  This is a religious tolerance issue.  The question is whether or not Ellison should be allowed to exercise his free expression of religion.  The government should not be compelled to purchase a Koran because Ellison’s religion has insignificant numbers of adherents in Congress.  Even if a person looked at it as a cultural issue the United States culture is about religious tolerance.</p>
<p>I see that is Jay‘s point..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe most City Counsil meeting prayers are lead by an individual and are left voluntary to all others involved.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
True, but when it happens during a group activity that one is expected to attend regularly, it ceases to be a purely individual matter.

But, we&#039;ll have plenty of time to hash it out next time a concrete example comes up. No need to to haggle over hypotheticals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe most City Counsil meeting prayers are lead by an individual and are left voluntary to all others involved.</p></blockquote>
<p>True, but when it happens during a group activity that one is expected to attend regularly, it ceases to be a purely individual matter.</p>
<p>But, we&#8217;ll have plenty of time to hash it out next time a concrete example comes up. No need to to haggle over hypotheticals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe most City Counsil meeting prayers are lead by an individual and are left voluntary to all others involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe most City Counsil meeting prayers are lead by an individual and are left voluntary to all others involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No matter what pile of paper, holy or not, someone swears on, they can still lie. I say judge Mr. Ellison on his faults, not his religion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Most definitely. I would even take it a step further and say you don&#039;t even need a stack of papers. If a man has morals and ethics, his word is enough. If he doesn&#039;t, no symbolic act will stop him anyways.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t think freedom of religion ends just because you become an elected official.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Agreed. In fact, I&#039;m very happy any time that I see an elected official stay true to his beliefs on any subject.
&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t defend City Counsil meetings opening with Christian prayers when the ACLU attacks them, and change my tune when the religion in argument is changed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I would just caution you to be careful when comparing a group action with an individual action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No matter what pile of paper, holy or not, someone swears on, they can still lie. I say judge Mr. Ellison on his faults, not his religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Most definitely. I would even take it a step further and say you don&#8217;t even need a stack of papers. If a man has morals and ethics, his word is enough. If he doesn&#8217;t, no symbolic act will stop him anyways.</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t think freedom of religion ends just because you become an elected official.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed. In fact, I&#8217;m very happy any time that I see an elected official stay true to his beliefs on any subject.</p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t defend City Counsil meetings opening with Christian prayers when the ACLU attacks them, and change my tune when the religion in argument is changed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would just caution you to be careful when comparing a group action with an individual action.</p>
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