Comments on: ACLU Push and Democrats Plan To Block NSA Legislation http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:23:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Y.A.C.R.W.B - Yet Another Conservative, Right Wing Blog » Democrats Out To Fulfill ACLU Agenda http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-58632 Y.A.C.R.W.B - Yet Another Conservative, Right Wing Blog » Democrats Out To Fulfill ACLU Agenda Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:33:25 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/#comment-58632 [...] The ACLU have much more to cheer about. When it comes to the war on terror the ACLU consistently choose the wrong side. Despite recent polls indicating that most Americans do not feel civil liberties have been harmed by the war on terror, they have made a mantra over over the NSA surveillance program. They have called on their Democrat friends in Congress to shut down any attempt by the lame duck Congress to pass legislation that would further this program. They have reason to cheer once again as the Democrats have every intention to block NSA legislation. The Democrats have the ACLU talking points down pat. There are a lot of bad bills that the Republicans may try to ram through, but here’s the worst of the worst - a bill to legalize the President’s warrantless wiretapping program. The White House is desperate to enact this bill, which allows the government to spy on American citizens, on American soil, without a warrant. [...] [...] The ACLU have much more to cheer about. When it comes to the war on terror the ACLU consistently choose the wrong side. Despite recent polls indicating that most Americans do not feel civil liberties have been harmed by the war on terror, they have made a mantra over over the NSA surveillance program. They have called on their Democrat friends in Congress to shut down any attempt by the lame duck Congress to pass legislation that would further this program. They have reason to cheer once again as the Democrats have every intention to block NSA legislation. The Democrats have the ACLU talking points down pat. There are a lot of bad bills that the Republicans may try to ram through, but here’s the worst of the worst – a bill to legalize the President’s warrantless wiretapping program. The White House is desperate to enact this bill, which allows the government to spy on American citizens, on American soil, without a warrant. [...]

]]> By: Mensa Barbie Welcomes You http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-58633 Mensa Barbie Welcomes You Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:59:54 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/#comment-58633 <strong>Scrapping NSA: D- Senators Dupe U.S.</strong> Many, assessed to have trained with al-Qaeda and associated groups, remain free in the Int'l community because (among other reasons) relevant laws did not come into force until July 2002...Jay at StoptheACLU posts: ACLU Push and Democrats Plan to Blo... Scrapping NSA: D- Senators Dupe U.S.

Many, assessed to have trained with al-Qaeda and associated groups, remain free in the Int’l community because (among other reasons) relevant laws did not come into force until July 2002…Jay at StoptheACLU posts: ACLU Push and Democrats Plan to Blo…

]]> By: kerwin_brown http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-58635 kerwin_brown Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:48:58 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/#comment-58635 If the NSA wiretap bill can not get through this lame duck Congress then there are also Republicans that are blocking it and it will be a dead issue as soon as the new Congress comes into power. "In Washington, the ACLU is urging Congress to live up to its constitutional responsibility to provide checks and balances to the executive and judicial branches," I am not sure whom you are quoting but I smirked when I read this. I find it hard to believe the ACLU wants Congress to regulate the "independent" judiciary they normally prize so much. If the NSA wiretap bill can not get through this lame duck Congress then there are also Republicans that are blocking it and it will be a dead issue as soon as the new Congress comes into power.

“In Washington, the ACLU is urging Congress to live up to its constitutional responsibility to provide checks and balances to the executive and judicial branches,”

I am not sure whom you are quoting but I smirked when I read this. I find it hard to believe the ACLU wants Congress to regulate the “independent” judiciary they normally prize so much.

]]> By: Jeff Molby http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-58634 Jeff Molby Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:22:51 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/11/14/aclu-push-and-democrats-plan-to-block-nsa-legislation/#comment-58634 Without getting into a discussion on the merits of the program, I <b>ABHOR</b> the idea of passing legislation "to legitimize" an existing program. If the program is legal as the administration contends, then they should go ahead and prove it in the courts. If it is not legal, those responsibility for its existence should pay the price for creating an illegal program. This is true <b>regardless</b> of the merits of the program. If there is any doubt as to legality of an action, it is best to avoid said action. This is true for <em>everyone</em> in this country. Neither I, nor the administration can pursue questionable interpretations of the law without assuming the risks of being wrong. Without getting into a discussion on the merits of the program, I ABHOR the idea of passing legislation “to legitimize” an existing program.

If the program is legal as the administration contends, then they should go ahead and prove it in the courts.

If it is not legal, those responsibility for its existence should pay the price for creating an illegal program.

This is true regardless of the merits of the program. If there is any doubt as to legality of an action, it is best to avoid said action. This is true for everyone in this country.

Neither I, nor the administration can pursue questionable interpretations of the law without assuming the risks of being wrong.

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