I was actually saying that anarchist could tilt the rate. Some atheist believe in Christian values and are as good or better at holding to the ethics as some so called Christians. From what I have seen Christians that go to church weekly do have an edge on holding to their values but that is most likely because they are constantly measuring themselves against a moral standard and adjusting their behavior to conform. This behavior seems to be normal to human beings whatever their beliefs as a recent study on weight loss and maintenance showed. I do not know the religion of those involved but I am assuming it was fairly standard for Americans.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=14&click_id=117&art_id=qw1160626863863B243

There is no reliable study of the religion of inmates. To get one you would have to find our what their friends and associates state. Considering some people who claim to be theist never talk about God and Atheist/Agnostic might not mention their religion either that might not even work. I saw someone conclude that the convicts who did not indicate their religion were atheist/agnostics and that is just as erroneous as to conclude that the ones that answered were all there were.

The thing that concerns me is that 6% of the jail population is Muslim while only about .5% of the outside population. That means Muslims are twice as likely as Blacks to end up in jail. I understand the high rate for Blacks as their culture has suffered a breakdown in marriage which is known to lead to move criminal behavior on the part of effected children but I do not believe it is the same case with Muslims. It is possible that many of those claiming to be Muslims are doing it to give Muslims a bad name and not because they are actually Muslim.

No Jeff, the assertion is that the radical secular Left is attempting to forcibly erase God from our society. You should really try to undersatnd what you are reading before you comment.

“those that advocate a relationship between church and state.”

First, why would you attempt to defend a guy like PY? Second, this statement is so broad as to make it utterly inane.

For PY, I’ll take a Proverbs 13:20 approach. See ya!

Like you, they all claim no belief in a “sky god” and “mythical god”, but spend a great deal of time, energy and passion railing against what they claim doesn’t exist.

He didn’t “rail against God” at all. He was railing against those that advocate a relationship between church and state. This is not at odds with his lack of belief.

We’ve had at least a dozen like you. Like you, they all claim no belief in a “sky god” and “mythical god”, but spend a great deal of time, energy and passion railing against what they claim doesn’t exist.

The Founders knew what was best for the country and made a distinction between their personal religious views and how they knew they nation should be governed.
Which our history shows is one and the same. Some of us old codgers were schooled before the liberals took over and introduced the “new and revised” history that more closely supports their (and your) world view.

putting 2000-year-old writings about a mythical sky god (”one you’re likely to have never investigated”)ahead of all else.

Anarchist are generally atheist and are also more likely to have contempt for laws.

It makes absolutely no difference if anarchists, communists, and socialists tend to be atheists. The assertion was that atheists are incapable of acting properly for the good of society.

You are looking at data that was warped for the .2% figure

It’s possible that the study was biased. I’m not familiar with it. What would you propose as a more reasonable number?

You are looking at data that was warped for the .2% figure as there were a large portion of those surveyed that indicated who did not answer or indicated they had no religion. You are also trusting convicted criminals to tell the truth. I don’t suggest you make a practice of that.

Anarchist are generally atheist and are also more likely to have contempt for laws.

Atheism is also a common religion of socialist and communist but I do not believe either has a greater tendency to commit crimes but I could be wrong.

It is an anarchistic belief that has permutated our society. There are individuals on both the left and right that are either anarchist, or are influenced to one degree or another by anarchism. When someone complains about “organized” religion, then you have someone who is influenced and the same with “limited” government. I am not sure what a disorganized religion is, and all governments are limited to one extent or another according to the powers the People allow them to take, either by tolerating them, being too scared to rebel, or other such action.

Isn’t it amazing that big Lefties claim that our Founders were influenced in NO WAY by Judeo-Christian philosophy, insisting that the nation is a pure-bred child of the “Enlightenment” birthed solely by Locke (whose secularism is highly exagerrated anyway) and Montesquieu

Who ever said that?

Everything. Liberty – political, social, sexual – runs amuck, without reason, without discipline, without limits. Justice is impossible, and unnecessary. Ignorance truly becomes bliss. Nothing has to make sense any more, because… nothing matters.

I don’t believe atheists represent a significantly high proportion of criminals. Why do you believe that reason, discipline, and proper social behavior can only come from a belief in God?