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	<title>Comments on: Should Presidents Be Allowed To Serve More Than Two Terms?</title>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a legal technicality.

	Blacks and Hispanics are and according to Blackgenocide.org Planned Parenthood, located most of their abortion centers in Black neighborhoods.  I have heard of ads targeting both of those groups and not ads targeting whites.  My sample size is too small, but it would be interesting to see who Planned Parenthood tends to market to.  They were allies of the Eugenics Movement.

	http://www.blackgenocide.org/planned.html

	Doctors kill children still in their mother&#039;s wombs.  The mothers just betray their own children by aiding and abetting them.  The judges also aided and abetted them by striking down laws that prevented the genocide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a legal technicality.</p>
<p>	Blacks and Hispanics are and according to Blackgenocide.org Planned Parenthood, located most of their abortion centers in Black neighborhoods.  I have heard of ads targeting both of those groups and not ads targeting whites.  My sample size is too small, but it would be interesting to see who Planned Parenthood tends to market to.  They were allies of the Eugenics Movement.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www.blackgenocide.org/planned.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blackgenocide.org/planned.html</a></p>
<p>	Doctors kill children still in their mother&#8217;s wombs.  The mothers just betray their own children by aiding and abetting them.  The judges also aided and abetted them by striking down laws that prevented the genocide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;2/3rds of those receiving legalized abortions do it for financial reasons. If this is true and not spin then the poor class is being targeted&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	1. &quot;The poor class&quot; does not qualify as &quot;a national, ethnic, racial or religious group&quot;
	2. &quot;killing&quot;, &quot;causing&quot;, &quot;inflicting&quot;, &quot;imposing. These are all verbs that require deliberate action from the accused. At most, abortion gives people the option of doing those things to themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>2/3rds of those receiving legalized abortions do it for financial reasons. If this is true and not spin then the poor class is being targeted</p></blockquote>
<p>	1. &#8220;The poor class&#8221; does not qualify as &#8220;a national, ethnic, racial or religious group&#8221;<br />
	2. &#8220;killing&#8221;, &#8220;causing&#8221;, &#8220;inflicting&#8221;, &#8220;imposing. These are all verbs that require deliberate action from the accused. At most, abortion gives people the option of doing those things to themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff Molby,

	If you go down you will come across the international law definition.

	“(a) Killing members of the group;
	(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
	(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
	(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
	(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

	According to the statistics of my Democrat House candidate 2/3rds of those receiving legalized abortions do it for financial reasons.  If this is true and not spin then the poor class is being targeted using marketing as a form of coercion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Molby,</p>
<p>	If you go down you will come across the international law definition.</p>
<p>	“(a) Killing members of the group;<br />
	(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;<br />
	(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;<br />
	(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;<br />
	(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”</p>
<p>	According to the statistics of my Democrat House candidate 2/3rds of those receiving legalized abortions do it for financial reasons.  If this is true and not spin then the poor class is being targeted using marketing as a form of coercion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lobo,

	Even if racist statements made in a society that had institutionalized racism had any bearing on today&#039;s beliefs, you would have an extremely hard time demonstrating that words &quot;systematic&quot; and &quot;entire&quot; considering  that the &quot;plan&quot; would require a grotesquely negative replacement rate and then the last women of said race[s] would literally have to follow suit knowing that they are the last of the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lobo,</p>
<p>	Even if racist statements made in a society that had institutionalized racism had any bearing on today&#8217;s beliefs, you would have an extremely hard time demonstrating that words &#8220;systematic&#8221; and &#8220;entire&#8221; considering  that the &#8220;plan&#8221; would require a grotesquely negative replacement rate and then the last women of said race[s] would literally have to follow suit knowing that they are the last of the line.</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
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		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Incorrect. The definition is much stricter than that. It is “[t]he systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.”&lt;/i&gt;
	Abortion has been numbered among the liberal causes of modern politics. Abortion is identified with women&#039;s rights just as the Civil Rights Movement was identified with equal rights for African Americans and other minorities. But is abortion really a liberal cause? A careful examination of the history of the abortion rights movement would shock even the most ardent defender of a woman&#039;s right to choose. The founders of the movement were in fact racists who despised the poor and who were searching for a way to prevent colored races from reproducing. Rather than defending the rights of the poorest of the poor, which is the tradition of liberalism, the founders advocated abortion as a means of eliminating the poor; especially &lt;b&gt;Blacks, Jews, Slavs, and Italians&lt;/b&gt;. And rather than desiring to help the poor through welfare programs, they wanted to eliminate all charities and government aid. Today, most liberals would be shocked to know of this racist heritage. Not only is the founding of the abortion rights movement anti-liberal, but it may have been an attempt to promote &lt;b&gt;racial genocide.&lt;/b&gt;
	The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger, Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her sympathies. In implementing a plan called the &quot;Negro Project,&quot; that was designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being born in the south, Sanger wrote:

	&quot;[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. &lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.&quot; [2]

	#  1) Emily Taft Douglas, Margaret Sanger; Pioneer of the Future, Holt, Rinehart &#38;#38; Winston, N.Y., 1970, p. 192.
	# 2) Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Oct. 19,1939. - Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College.

	http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/peterson.html

	Abortion is genocide, infanticide and murder.

	Margaret Sanger was also a founding member of the ACLU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Incorrect. The definition is much stricter than that. It is “[t]he systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.”</i><br />
	Abortion has been numbered among the liberal causes of modern politics. Abortion is identified with women&#8217;s rights just as the Civil Rights Movement was identified with equal rights for African Americans and other minorities. But is abortion really a liberal cause? A careful examination of the history of the abortion rights movement would shock even the most ardent defender of a woman&#8217;s right to choose. The founders of the movement were in fact racists who despised the poor and who were searching for a way to prevent colored races from reproducing. Rather than defending the rights of the poorest of the poor, which is the tradition of liberalism, the founders advocated abortion as a means of eliminating the poor; especially <b>Blacks, Jews, Slavs, and Italians</b>. And rather than desiring to help the poor through welfare programs, they wanted to eliminate all charities and government aid. Today, most liberals would be shocked to know of this racist heritage. Not only is the founding of the abortion rights movement anti-liberal, but it may have been an attempt to promote <b>racial genocide.</b><br />
	The modern day abortion rights movement began as the American Birth Control League in 1921. Among its founding board members were Margaret Sanger, Lothrup Stoddard, and C. C. Little. The latter two people were known for their racist views, but Margaret Sanger continually shows up in the company of other racists. In fact, she was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J. in 1926.[1] Not only did she not disassociate herself from these racist views, her own writings leave little doubt as to her sympathies. In implementing a plan called the &#8220;Negro Project,&#8221; that was designed to sterilize Blacks and reduce the number of Black children being born in the south, Sanger wrote:</p>
<p>	&#8220;[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. <b><u>And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population</u></b>, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.&#8221; [2]</p>
<p>	#  1) Emily Taft Douglas, Margaret Sanger; Pioneer of the Future, Holt, Rinehart &#38;#38;#38; Winston, N.Y., 1970, p. 192.<br />
	# 2) Margaret Sanger, letter to Clarence Gamble, Oct. 19,1939. &#8211; Sanger manuscripts, Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/peterson.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~rauch/abortion_eugenics/peterson.html</a></p>
<p>	Abortion is genocide, infanticide and murder.</p>
<p>	Margaret Sanger was also a founding member of the ACLU.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have no need to prove an embryo is a human being because biologists have already done that...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	I didn&#039;t mean to imply that I disagreed. I was simply trying to point out that the burden of proof for &quot;murder&quot; was far easier to meet than &quot;genocide&quot;.
	&lt;blockquote&gt;Genocide is just murder on a mass scale&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	Incorrect. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/genocide&#38;#38;r=67&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;definition&lt;/a&gt; is much stricter than that. It is &quot;[t]he systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have no need to prove an embryo is a human being because biologists have already done that&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>	I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that I disagreed. I was simply trying to point out that the burden of proof for &#8220;murder&#8221; was far easier to meet than &#8220;genocide&#8221;.</p>
<blockquote><p>Genocide is just murder on a mass scale</p></blockquote>
<p>	Incorrect. The <a href="http://www.answers.com/genocide&#38;#38;#38;r=67" rel="nofollow">definition</a> is much stricter than that. It is &#8220;[t]he systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no need to prove an embryo is a human being because biologists have already done that, and anyone who denies it is acting like a fanatic or a fool.  It is especially silly when they are the same people who cleave to the theory of evolution.  You can always try to prove biologists wrong, but you should have some reasonable basis why you believe they are wrong.

	Genocide is just murder on a mass scale and so 1.2 million humans killed each year qualifies as genocide.

	You are correct about the way I stated &quot;they do not care about logic,&quot; as I should have included the possibility that they also might be incompetent or careless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no need to prove an embryo is a human being because biologists have already done that, and anyone who denies it is acting like a fanatic or a fool.  It is especially silly when they are the same people who cleave to the theory of evolution.  You can always try to prove biologists wrong, but you should have some reasonable basis why you believe they are wrong.</p>
<p>	Genocide is just murder on a mass scale and so 1.2 million humans killed each year qualifies as genocide.</p>
<p>	You are correct about the way I stated &#8220;they do not care about logic,&#8221; as I should have included the possibility that they also might be incompetent or careless.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try to read your links later in the day.

	&lt;blockquote&gt;Roe v. Wade stands because of politics&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	Then I&#039;m confused as to how you suppose introducing more politics would change things.
	&lt;blockquote&gt;If the President is incompetent in his job then his choices for federal judges &lt;b&gt;will&lt;/b&gt; also be incompetent. As it is they are political appointees which mean they &lt;b&gt;may&lt;/b&gt; be appointed in exchange for favors or other reasons that dominate politics.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	Your statements are inconsistent. Even if your assertions are taken as fact, you have only demonstrated that &quot;some&quot; federal judges are incompetent.
	&lt;blockquote&gt;They do not care about logic.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	This is the adhominem attack I was referring to. Even if you demonstrated that they have no capacity for logic, surely you can&#039;t presume to know their cares.

	&lt;blockquote&gt;Federal Judges that back legalized abortion are guilty of aiding and abetting genocide&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	Sorry. I&#039;m going to have to disagree with that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/genocide&#38;#38;r=67&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;leap&lt;/a&gt;. Stick to calling it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.answers.com/murder&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;murder&lt;/a&gt;. At least then, you only have to prove that an embryo is a human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try to read your links later in the day.</p>
<blockquote><p>Roe v. Wade stands because of politics</p></blockquote>
<p>	Then I&#8217;m confused as to how you suppose introducing more politics would change things.</p>
<blockquote><p>If the President is incompetent in his job then his choices for federal judges <b>will</b> also be incompetent. As it is they are political appointees which mean they <b>may</b> be appointed in exchange for favors or other reasons that dominate politics.</p></blockquote>
<p>	Your statements are inconsistent. Even if your assertions are taken as fact, you have only demonstrated that &#8220;some&#8221; federal judges are incompetent.</p>
<blockquote><p>They do not care about logic.</p></blockquote>
<p>	This is the adhominem attack I was referring to. Even if you demonstrated that they have no capacity for logic, surely you can&#8217;t presume to know their cares.</p>
<blockquote><p>Federal Judges that back legalized abortion are guilty of aiding and abetting genocide</p></blockquote>
<p>	Sorry. I&#8217;m going to have to disagree with that <a href="http://www.answers.com/genocide&#38;#38;#38;r=67" rel="nofollow">leap</a>. Stick to calling it <a href="http://www.answers.com/murder" rel="nofollow">murder</a>. At least then, you only have to prove that an embryo is a human being.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not got the space or time for all the answers you want so I will summarize.  Thomas Jefferson used the argument that the federal judiciary was never intended to have the power of judicial review after the case of Marbury v. Madison.  Here are some of his quotes about it.

	http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1030.htm

	Abraham Lincoln used the Dred Scott v. Sanford case as a springboard into the presidency which did not make the Southerners happy to say the least.

	http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/dred.htm

	If the President is incompetent in his job then his choices for federal judges will also be incompetent.  As it is they are political appointees which mean they may be appointed in exchange for favors or other reasons that dominate politics.

	Roe v. Wade stands because of politics which is why pro choice and pro life factions try to influence judicial appointments.

	An ad hominem uses the personal attack as a premise which is not what I did.  I compared the judges to Saddam and Hitler because no one exists to keep them in check.  Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson both call the Supreme Court Justices of their time tyrants or something to that effect.  The truth is not defamatory.

	Federal Judges that back legalized abortion are guilty of aiding and abetting genocide which is a human rights crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not got the space or time for all the answers you want so I will summarize.  Thomas Jefferson used the argument that the federal judiciary was never intended to have the power of judicial review after the case of Marbury v. Madison.  Here are some of his quotes about it.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1030.htm" rel="nofollow">http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1030.htm</a></p>
<p>	Abraham Lincoln used the Dred Scott v. Sanford case as a springboard into the presidency which did not make the Southerners happy to say the least.</p>
<p>	<a href="http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/dred.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.historyplace.com/lincoln/dred.htm</a></p>
<p>	If the President is incompetent in his job then his choices for federal judges will also be incompetent.  As it is they are political appointees which mean they may be appointed in exchange for favors or other reasons that dominate politics.</p>
<p>	Roe v. Wade stands because of politics which is why pro choice and pro life factions try to influence judicial appointments.</p>
<p>	An ad hominem uses the personal attack as a premise which is not what I did.  I compared the judges to Saddam and Hitler because no one exists to keep them in check.  Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson both call the Supreme Court Justices of their time tyrants or something to that effect.  The truth is not defamatory.</p>
<p>	Federal Judges that back legalized abortion are guilty of aiding and abetting genocide which is a human rights crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Molby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Molby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 01:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t believe you have demonstrated any causation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	I also should have mentioned that I don&#039;t expect you to. A proper analysis of the subject matter would certainly take several volumes of text. If you have any books to suggest, I will attempt to read them.

	Other than that, I think this conversation has reached its end. I admit that your belief is reasonable; It is certainly one of the possibilities. I hope that you can step back for a minute and acknowledge that there are other possibilities as well. In fact, the truth is most likely a combination of all the possibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t believe you have demonstrated any causation.</p></blockquote>
<p>	I also should have mentioned that I don&#8217;t expect you to. A proper analysis of the subject matter would certainly take several volumes of text. If you have any books to suggest, I will attempt to read them.</p>
<p>	Other than that, I think this conversation has reached its end. I admit that your belief is reasonable; It is certainly one of the possibilities. I hope that you can step back for a minute and acknowledge that there are other possibilities as well. In fact, the truth is most likely a combination of all the possibilities.</p>
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