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		<title>By: stikNstein&#38;#38;#8230;.has no mercy &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; &#38;#38;#8220;Reasonable Doubt for a Reasonable Fee&#38;#38;#8221;&#38;#38;#8230;..but the ACLU is FREE</title>
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		<dc:creator>stikNstein&#38;#38;#8230;.has no mercy &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; &#38;#38;#8220;Reasonable Doubt for a Reasonable Fee&#38;#38;#8221;&#38;#38;#8230;..but the ACLU is FREE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AND&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;.by the way guys, You need to change your name&#38;#8230;..It no longer seems to apply&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;.. Other Bloggers actually fighting for your rights today&#38;#8230;&#38;#8230;. Stop The ACLU has info on some ACLU dissenters Demediacratic Nation on the Fence Legislation Miller Boycott UPDATE Mark in Mexico updates us from the Land of Guestworkers This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII).   If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AND&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;.by the way guys, You need to change your name&#38;#38;#8230;..It no longer seems to apply&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;.. Other Bloggers actually fighting for your rights today&#38;#38;#8230;&#38;#38;#8230;. Stop The ACLU has info on some ACLU dissenters Demediacratic Nation on the Fence Legislation Miller Boycott UPDATE Mark in Mexico updates us from the Land of Guestworkers This was a production of The Coalition Against Illegal Immigration (CAII).   If you would like to participate, please go to the above link to learn more. Afterwards, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cigar Intelligence Agency &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU: a legacy of hypocrisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cigar Intelligence Agency &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU: a legacy of hypocrisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 17:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In case you haven&#38;#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is fed up with is hypocrisy and the ACLU is full of it. Purging the ACLU of its hypocrisy is bound to be a goliath task. Where do we even begin with the ACLU&#38;#8217;s hypocrisy? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Papagresh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papagresh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The housecleaning effort by the folks at savetheaclu.org is commendable if long overdue -- however, the odds are off the charts against their successful conversion of a cancerous monster into an angel of light.  With cancer, the excision of only the malignancy is doomed to failure, especially after metastasis has begun.

	The best answer is eradication of the ACLU altogether, but that is not realistic considering the number of operatives they have smuggled into the judiciary -- to say nothing of their coffers, awash in socialist graft and lucre.

	Still, I have added my name to the petition at savetheaclu.org and encourage others to do the same.  Anything that may disrupt their crusade against our heritage even briefly is a good thing, I say.

	Meanwhile, let us support and pray for the success of organizations like stoptheaclu.com and Jay Sekulow&#039;s ACLJ that have taken on the formidable task of going toe-to-toe with the ACLU, fighting fire with fire.

	The worst thing we can do is assume that the ACLU will change into something respectable simply because a group of somewhat less despicable ACLU loons has been embarrassed into taking action -- action not intended to alter the ACLU&#039;s vile agenda, but merely to tone down its brazenness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The housecleaning effort by the folks at savetheaclu.org is commendable if long overdue &#8212; however, the odds are off the charts against their successful conversion of a cancerous monster into an angel of light.  With cancer, the excision of only the malignancy is doomed to failure, especially after metastasis has begun.</p>
<p>	The best answer is eradication of the ACLU altogether, but that is not realistic considering the number of operatives they have smuggled into the judiciary &#8212; to say nothing of their coffers, awash in socialist graft and lucre.</p>
<p>	Still, I have added my name to the petition at savetheaclu.org and encourage others to do the same.  Anything that may disrupt their crusade against our heritage even briefly is a good thing, I say.</p>
<p>	Meanwhile, let us support and pray for the success of organizations like stoptheaclu.com and Jay Sekulow&#8217;s ACLJ that have taken on the formidable task of going toe-to-toe with the ACLU, fighting fire with fire.</p>
<p>	The worst thing we can do is assume that the ACLU will change into something respectable simply because a group of somewhat less despicable ACLU loons has been embarrassed into taking action &#8212; action not intended to alter the ACLU&#8217;s vile agenda, but merely to tone down its brazenness.</p>
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		<title>By: Revealing The ACLU - Standing Up Against the Greatest Overt Attack in American History &#38;#38;#187; ACLU: A Legacy Of Hypocrisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revealing The ACLU - Standing Up Against the Greatest Overt Attack in American History &#38;#38;#187; ACLU: A Legacy Of Hypocrisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 12:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ACLU: A Legacy Of Hypocrisy   By david Crossposted from Stop The ACLU: In case you haven&#38;#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is fed up with is hypocrisy and the ACLU is full of it. Purging the ACLU of its hypocrisy is bound to be a goliath task. Where do we even begin with the ACLU&#38;#8217;s hypocrisy? How about its odd stance on the Second Amendment? They have decided that the term &#38;#8220;the people&#38;#8221; that is contained in the Second Amendment does not apply to &#38;#8220;the people&#38;#8221; as it does in all of the other rights contained in the Bill of Rights. They defend even the most radical in free speech for individuals, but somehow have adopted the opposite position on the Second Amendment. Surely it couldn&#38;#8217;t be that the Second Amendment doesn&#38;#8217;t fall within the boundaries of their liberal agenda! Could it? In August of 2005 the New York ACLU sued against random bag searches on the NY Subway. Ironically the NYCLU HQ has a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. The ACLU have fought tooth and nail against the Bush administration&#38;#8217;s NSA program, a program designed to track international phone calls being made to or from suspected terrorist organizations. They have hailed themselves defenders of the right to privacy and labelled the program an illegal &#38;#8220;secret&#38;#8221; program of &#38;#8220;domestic spying&#38;#8221;. All the while the ACLU has its own &#38;#8220;secret&#38;#8221; program of domestic spying of its own members and their personal financial information. This program has nothing to do with national security and everything to do with the real bottom line of fundraising. Former ACLU board member Michael Myers was shocked at this discovery. The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders? commitment to privacy rights. Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a mockery of the organization?s frequent criticism of banks, corporations and government agencies for their practice of accumulating data on people for marketing and other purposes. The group?s new data collection practices were implemented without the board?s approval or knowledge and were in violation of the ACLU?s privacy policy at the time, according to Michael Meyers, vice president of the organization and a frequent internal critic. He said he had learned about the new research by accident Nov. 7 during a meeting of the committee that is organizing the group?s Biennial Conference in July. He objected to the practices, and the next day, the privacy policy on the group?s Web site was changed. ?They took out all the language that would show that they were violating their own policy,? Meyers said. ?In doing so, they sanctified their procedure while still keeping it secret.? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conservative Culture &#38;#38;#187; Blogburst - ACLU&#38;#38;#8217;s Hypocricy Legacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Culture &#38;#38;#187; Blogburst - ACLU&#38;#38;#8217;s Hypocricy Legacy</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] In case you haven&#38;#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is fed up with is hypocrisy and the ACLU is full of it. Purging the ACLU of its hypocrisy is bound to be a goliath task. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conservative Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU Hypocrisy Files&lt;/strong&gt;
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU: In case you haven&#039;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ACLU Hypocrisy Files</strong><br />
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU: In case you haven&#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Xtreme Right Wing. Scratching the Rash of Liberalism!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xtreme Right Wing. Scratching the Rash of Liberalism!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In case you haven&#38;#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is fed up with is hypocrisy and the ACLU is full of it. Purging the ACLU of its hypocrisy is bound to be a goliath task. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In case you haven&#38;#38;#8217;t heard, a group of dissenters from the ACLU are rebelling and calling for a change in the current leadership of the main organization. The summary of things this new group is fed up with is hypocrisy and the ACLU is full of it. Purging the ACLU of its hypocrisy is bound to be a goliath task. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, but a few changes for the better are better than none.  Many of the critics that were told to shut up were asking for free speech of pro-life advocates to be treated equal with those of pro-abortionists.  At least if they have a few internal critics like this that will be whistleblowers in the ACLU...perhaps they will be just a little less dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, but a few changes for the better are better than none.  Many of the critics that were told to shut up were asking for free speech of pro-life advocates to be treated equal with those of pro-abortionists.  At least if they have a few internal critics like this that will be whistleblowers in the ACLU&#8230;perhaps they will be just a little less dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Polipundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polipundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU ?Christmas Card? List Getting Shorter&lt;/strong&gt;
	Jay at ?Stop the ACLU? is reporting of the infighting going on at the American Civil Liberties Union:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ACLU ?Christmas Card? List Getting Shorter</strong><br />
	Jay at ?Stop the ACLU? is reporting of the infighting going on at the American Civil Liberties Union:</p>
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		<title>By: Glib Fortuna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glib Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 17:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay--

	First, congrats on getting in the NYT.  Nice work.

	I don&#039;t think painting a turd gold makes it any less of a turd, so simply exposing some internal dirty laundry won&#039;t fix the unfixable.  Here is the crux of savetheaclu&#039;s campaign (from its website):

	&quot;Over the past three years, these breaches of principle include the ACLU’s approval of grant agreements that restrict speech and associational rights; efforts by management to impose gag rules on staff and to subject staff to email surveillance; a proposal to bar ACLU board members from publicly criticizing the ACLU; and informal campaigns to purge the ACLU of its internal critics.&quot;

	This group is not rising up to oppose the ACLU&#039;s vigorous defense of child molesters and an organization that has written Getting Away with Child Rape for Dummies.  The group is not protesting the ACLU&#039;s support of group &quot;marriages.&quot;  They are not criticizing the ACLU&#039;s utter disregard for our national security and the aggressive campaign to challenge EVERY effective counter-terrorism tool available.  This groups is not exposing the ACLU&#039;s opposition to school choice and its dedication to make sure even half-born children are slaughtered if it&#039;s the &quot;mother&#039;s&quot; &quot;choice&quot; to order the execution.  This group isn&#039;t bothered by the ACLU&#039;s campaign to remove all religous symbols from public grounds regardless of whom these symbols honor or the deep history behind the use of these symbols.  They have no problem with the ACLU litigating to leave taxpayers no &quot;choice&quot; as to whether we want to fund inmate abortions and sex-organ mutilation procedures.  No need to go on...

	The group should receive limited credit for wanting to stick the finger in this particular dike, but it shouldn&#039;t be surprised that this is what it&#039;s come down to.  The ACLU is a totalitarian organization, so the fact that its authoritarianism has begun to approach complete metastasis has always been inevitable.  Be that as it may, this group is still sold out to the ACLU agenda and should not recieve any sloppy kisses here.</description>
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<p>	First, congrats on getting in the NYT.  Nice work.</p>
<p>	I don&#8217;t think painting a turd gold makes it any less of a turd, so simply exposing some internal dirty laundry won&#8217;t fix the unfixable.  Here is the crux of savetheaclu&#8217;s campaign (from its website):</p>
<p>	&#8220;Over the past three years, these breaches of principle include the ACLU’s approval of grant agreements that restrict speech and associational rights; efforts by management to impose gag rules on staff and to subject staff to email surveillance; a proposal to bar ACLU board members from publicly criticizing the ACLU; and informal campaigns to purge the ACLU of its internal critics.&#8221;</p>
<p>	This group is not rising up to oppose the ACLU&#8217;s vigorous defense of child molesters and an organization that has written Getting Away with Child Rape for Dummies.  The group is not protesting the ACLU&#8217;s support of group &#8220;marriages.&#8221;  They are not criticizing the ACLU&#8217;s utter disregard for our national security and the aggressive campaign to challenge EVERY effective counter-terrorism tool available.  This groups is not exposing the ACLU&#8217;s opposition to school choice and its dedication to make sure even half-born children are slaughtered if it&#8217;s the &#8220;mother&#8217;s&#8221; &#8220;choice&#8221; to order the execution.  This group isn&#8217;t bothered by the ACLU&#8217;s campaign to remove all religous symbols from public grounds regardless of whom these symbols honor or the deep history behind the use of these symbols.  They have no problem with the ACLU litigating to leave taxpayers no &#8220;choice&#8221; as to whether we want to fund inmate abortions and sex-organ mutilation procedures.  No need to go on&#8230;</p>
<p>	The group should receive limited credit for wanting to stick the finger in this particular dike, but it shouldn&#8217;t be surprised that this is what it&#8217;s come down to.  The ACLU is a totalitarian organization, so the fact that its authoritarianism has begun to approach complete metastasis has always been inevitable.  Be that as it may, this group is still sold out to the ACLU agenda and should not recieve any sloppy kisses here.</p>
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