The ACLU: Supporting the Terrorization of Residents or Defending the Homeless? You Decide
The ACLU is preparing to go to battle with Orlando Florida over a group that feeds homeless people in parks.
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The Orlando City Council recently passed an ordinance that prohibits the feeding of large groups of people in city parks without a permit, and the ACLU is about to file a lawsuit over it.
My short take on this is that many chronically homeless people are unbalanced and may pose a threat to the peaceful citizens of Orlando. If one of these homeless people were to attack a citizen while being fed in the park by a charity the city could be sued for failing to keep its citizens safe, especially from a foreseeable danger.
If this charity wants to feed the homeless let them secure a building for that very purpose.
The ACLU doesn’t seem to care about the law abiding citizens of any community. Your safety is of no concern to them, and your best bet is to stay out of city parks in Orlando.
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Posted by kender on August 14, 2006 9:54 am
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Okay, this is the first time I have ever responded to a post here, but when I saw this I had to take the time to register to do so. Before I begin, I would like to point out that I am not a fan of the ACLU these days, and as such recognize that your blog does provide a valuable service. That’s why, though I am not a member of your “Stop The ACLU” Blogroll, still I have your blog on my own blogroll.
Still, don’t you think this might be a little extreme? Granted, a great lot of these people aren’t eactly the kind you would casually ask to watch little Johnny and Suzie while you go away for the weekend. Still, feeding them in a public park, how bad can it be? They are being fed, and by the way, while this is going on, everybody knows where they are, and they can be watched.
When it is not going on, who knows where they are? Well, maybe they are somewhere in the park, right? Or maybe they are somewhere else, lurking in the alleys, or the shadows, etc.
This group is providing a service, in my view, and the city of Orlando isn’t concerned about any danger. Their concern seems to be the apearrance it presents to the public at large to see large groups of homeless people in a public park, receiving free food. And, by the way, this could be a way for some of these people to establish contacts with people that might help them get the help they need, and get back on their feet. You’ve got to weight everything in the balance. I applaud this group, and the ACLU for supporting them.
I agree with Enyalios.
Shouldn’t we be proud that private citizens instead of the government are taking care of the poor?
Where will the poor go now? Ah, to government welfare organizations.
Yeah, that’s just swell.
“Where will the poor go now? Ah, to government welfare organizations.”
Where are the Churches? Are they all just social clubs now?
When I read about this case the government stated that the homeless could get official government aid and therefore did not need private aid. That is foolish.
The problem the city is faced with is a number of the homeless are unstable and will publically urinate and feciate. They will also stay around and bug anyone coming to the park. This tends to ruin park trips for the rest of the population.
I believe the park is also across the road from a casino in Las Vegas.
Churches are loosing membership as more people flock to the government established secular atheism. It is sad that so few people think for themselves.
Profanity is not allowed here anymore now than it was when you first commented here.
If you can’t make your point without profanity, don’t waste your or my time.
Lobo
I live in Orlando. When I first saw this site I thought that you might be a group that wants to make America a better place, by keeping crazy lawsuits out of our courts. But I see you are just a group of hate. You could pick your fights with the ACLU to those that are wrong, but instead you are out to stop my church from feeding the homeless. I pity you. You hate them so much you attack them even when they are (one of the rare timew) doing the right thing.
JC, if you want to feed the homeless do it at your church, not in a park. Is there a problem with feeding the homeless at your church? Maybe you could even offer them a shower and some new clothes and minister to them while they are there.
Many, many homeless are mentally ill or drug addicts……if you want to feed them do it somewhere away from where children play.
Kender, the homeless are already in the park. This is not some little playground, it is a rather large park. We go and minister to homeless at the park every week, and now the city does not want to allow us to feed them anymore. It is not going to get the homeless to leave the park, we have mild winters and the park is one of the few places they can go (because it is public). The courts have already ruled that the police cannot force the homeless to leave the park during its operating hours. They will still be there. The whole issue is that the city government wants to tell our church what it can and cannot do in the park. Because they cannot prohibit either our church or the homeless to be there, they have somehow convinced themselves that by disallowing food they will go away. This is not the case, we will still go an try to save them, but without any food to serve. Our goal is to get as many as possible to get productive lives so in the future they will be visiting the park not living there.
Good for you JC.
Keep tilting at those windmills.
Having worked with the hopelessly homeless I have very little hope for many of those homeless folks out there, and would rather you take them away from the park to feed and try to help them.
On the other hand they are a great way for me to illustrate to my son the dangers of drugs and a lack of ambition.
I am so sorry. I just found out that you are the group that caused all the harassment of that Jewish family that wanted more generic prayers before the football games so their kids would not feel left out. I didn’t know you were THAT kind of group. I will not be seeing me around here anymore. BTW: The ACLU had already turned down their request for help before you guys started harassing them to the point they moved out of town. It is just so sad what people claiming to be Christian do these days.
You should apoloize JC, that was Ned Karieva from stop the aclu DOT ORG, and he posted an address that was over a year old, so how can one get harassed out of their community a year after they left?
They can’t. Old argument, been knocked down, repeatedly, and as I said, you should apologize. Twice.
Once for not knowing what you are talking about, and once for being such a fool and spreading old lies.
And maybe once more eh?
You probably should apologize for your mothers choice to keep you……that has proven to be an annoyance to all of us.
From expierence I know that many of the homeless are drug addicts/drunk/mentally ill or what have you. It is good to help them but in a park where working people on a lunch break have to watch their back is not the place. I have been followed, at a distance, by a drunk/high homeless man shouting random things. Even though I was not far from a local college with many other students around, and the police protection from the school, it was still disturbing.
If the courts stopped the city from kicking the homeless out of the park then the courts are probably the blame. The question is what do the homeless do in the park and if their actions are oppressive to themselves or others. The correct place to resolve this issue is legislatively and not through the judicial system.
Hey Kender-
I am happy that you told that guy off and explained the facts to him.
But is it really necessary that you said:
“You probably should apologize for your mothers choice to keep you……that has proven to be an annoyance to all of us.”
Yeah, I don’t think so. Especially to a new person to the site.
No Shining City, it completely unnecessary. In fact, it was one of dem dere “ad hominy” attacks.
But A) It said it wouldn’t be back, and B) It was swallowing lies, and disproven lies at that.
If it does come back maybe it will see that and leave, and I won’t be sad. We really don’t need anymore moronic trolls that can’t comprehend what they read and swallow lies around here…..he already have a pet meathead.
Profanity is still not allowed nolibs……..and if you threaten me like you did lobo I WILL report you to the proper authorities……Kender
NOLIBS, there is a no profanity rule on this blog. If you do not like that do not comment here.