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		<title>By: Bosun</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/08/10/anti-terror-critics-just-dont-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-54369</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerwin,

	Bravo.  You said it all.  Have a good Sunday, and a great new week.

	R/ Bosun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerwin,</p>
<p>	Bravo.  You said it all.  Have a good Sunday, and a great new week.</p>
<p>	R/ Bosun</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/08/10/anti-terror-critics-just-dont-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-54370</link>
		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Certain individuals seem ignorant of what is going on in the world.  In Iraq you have the Al Sadir band of Shiites killing Sunnis and the Baath party Sunnis killing Shiites.  The Shiites are funded by our friends in Iran while the Sunnis are funded by our friends in Syria.  These two powers are also backing the Hezbollah who instigated war with Isreal.  At the Same time Christians and Pagans are being wiped out by Muslims in Sudan.  In Somalia the Islamic Courts have triumphed and the U.N. government was threatened.  Europe has found itself with a fair share of it&#039;s population being Muslim who&#039;s main loyalty is to Islam.   Russia and other countries are also fighting their Islamic terrorist elements.  China seems to keep theirs in check but I suspect theirs is of a different sect than either Sunni or Shiite. In short the War on Terror is a world war that is fought as much in the political arena as it is anywhere else.

	For reasons I do not understand the Left supports the terrorist.  I say this because I do not believe the left is so foolish that they do not see the threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certain individuals seem ignorant of what is going on in the world.  In Iraq you have the Al Sadir band of Shiites killing Sunnis and the Baath party Sunnis killing Shiites.  The Shiites are funded by our friends in Iran while the Sunnis are funded by our friends in Syria.  These two powers are also backing the Hezbollah who instigated war with Isreal.  At the Same time Christians and Pagans are being wiped out by Muslims in Sudan.  In Somalia the Islamic Courts have triumphed and the U.N. government was threatened.  Europe has found itself with a fair share of it&#8217;s population being Muslim who&#8217;s main loyalty is to Islam.   Russia and other countries are also fighting their Islamic terrorist elements.  China seems to keep theirs in check but I suspect theirs is of a different sect than either Sunni or Shiite. In short the War on Terror is a world war that is fought as much in the political arena as it is anywhere else.</p>
<p>	For reasons I do not understand the Left supports the terrorist.  I say this because I do not believe the left is so foolish that they do not see the threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bosun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>camanintx,

	Your the one who is bringing everything up.  I am not sure how comments on FPM got here.  Don&#039;t think that Mr. Reid was talking about it.  I surely was not.

	The left and the press are weak on security&#38;gt;  NY Times and LA Times leak security information (apparently the same type of security measures the Brits used to round up the Jihadists but the left and your ACLU fights against here.)  They (the two lefti newspapers of record then cry foul about the Republicans manipulating the release of the bomb plot in Britian.  And, the yahoos from the left wing party put roadblocks up in America for security matters.  For crying out loud, just to get an extension on the Patriot Act through took much time and red tape.

	Back to my original article and comments at the end,

	&lt;blockquote&gt;The Bosun sincerely believes just like the naive, liberals, socialists and leftists of the Brit’s society put them at risk; the naive, liberals, socialists, and leftists of American Society put America at risk.

	One should think that Jack Murtha, Dean, Pelosi, Clinton, Kerry, (our “Dingy” Harry) Reid, McDermott, Feingold, and other left wingers better get with the program, because if they do not, the Islamofacist Caliphate will spread to the North America, too. The battle lines have been drawn, do we have the guts to get the job done?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
	&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/10/9810/37527&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;DAILY KOS WEBSITE: &quot;Genuine plot, or is it the Bush admin dictating yet another &#039;Oh wow, this is serious&#039;...&quot; &lt;/a&gt;
	&lt;a href=&quot;http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/08/al-franken-air-america-radio-tom.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Air America host blames Blair, Bush for taking &quot;vacations&quot; that &quot;seem to trigger plots&quot;... &lt;/a&gt;
	&lt;a href=&quot;http://newsbusters.org/node/6895&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;NBC REPORTER: &quot;How long ago did they know of this and why are we just hearing about it right now?&quot;... &lt;/a&gt; (I could not pass up the NBC liberal network blast.)

	I stand by what I said.  All your fluff  and chaff that you throw out does not seem to dispute the basics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>camanintx,</p>
<p>	Your the one who is bringing everything up.  I am not sure how comments on FPM got here.  Don&#8217;t think that Mr. Reid was talking about it.  I surely was not.</p>
<p>	The left and the press are weak on security&#38;#38;gt;  NY Times and LA Times leak security information (apparently the same type of security measures the Brits used to round up the Jihadists but the left and your ACLU fights against here.)  They (the two lefti newspapers of record then cry foul about the Republicans manipulating the release of the bomb plot in Britian.  And, the yahoos from the left wing party put roadblocks up in America for security matters.  For crying out loud, just to get an extension on the Patriot Act through took much time and red tape.</p>
<p>	Back to my original article and comments at the end,</p>
<blockquote><p>The Bosun sincerely believes just like the naive, liberals, socialists and leftists of the Brit’s society put them at risk; the naive, liberals, socialists, and leftists of American Society put America at risk.</p>
<p>	One should think that Jack Murtha, Dean, Pelosi, Clinton, Kerry, (our “Dingy” Harry) Reid, McDermott, Feingold, and other left wingers better get with the program, because if they do not, the Islamofacist Caliphate will spread to the North America, too. The battle lines have been drawn, do we have the guts to get the job done?</p></blockquote>
<p>	<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/10/9810/37527" target="_blank">DAILY KOS WEBSITE: &#8220;Genuine plot, or is it the Bush admin dictating yet another &#8216;Oh wow, this is serious&#8217;&#8230;&#8221; </a><br />
	<a href="http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2006/08/al-franken-air-america-radio-tom.html" target="_blank">Air America host blames Blair, Bush for taking &#8220;vacations&#8221; that &#8220;seem to trigger plots&#8221;&#8230; </a><br />
	<a href="http://newsbusters.org/node/6895" target="_blank">NBC REPORTER: &#8220;How long ago did they know of this and why are we just hearing about it right now?&#8221;&#8230; </a> (I could not pass up the NBC liberal network blast.)</p>
<p>	I stand by what I said.  All your fluff  and chaff that you throw out does not seem to dispute the basics.</p>
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		<title>By: Glib Fortuna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glib Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so you can&#039;t take a joke...I get it.  Of course what OD wrote is distasteful (and I think as a former frequent contributor at FPM that OD was either hyperbolizing or has had his tag co-opted), but you miss the real.

	That aside, if you perceive the comment by OD on FPM to be serious, you think a single post from a single reader on a single website is the same thing as conspiracy theories being seriously discussed across a wide swath of &quot;respected&quot; leftist commentary outlets.  There is no comparison.

	Anyway, read my more recent post about the &quot;timing&quot; of this &quot;conspiracy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so you can&#8217;t take a joke&#8230;I get it.  Of course what OD wrote is distasteful (and I think as a former frequent contributor at FPM that OD was either hyperbolizing or has had his tag co-opted), but you miss the real.</p>
<p>	That aside, if you perceive the comment by OD on FPM to be serious, you think a single post from a single reader on a single website is the same thing as conspiracy theories being seriously discussed across a wide swath of &#8220;respected&#8221; leftist commentary outlets.  There is no comparison.</p>
<p>	Anyway, read my more recent post about the &#8220;timing&#8221; of this &#8220;conspiracy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: camanintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>camanintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glib,

	You&#039;re right, there is no comparison. The left just suspect Rove and company of using this terror plot for political gain which we all know is within the realm of possibility. The right advocates trashing the Constitution if they don&#039;t retain control of Congress. What was I thinking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glib,</p>
<p>	You&#8217;re right, there is no comparison. The left just suspect Rove and company of using this terror plot for political gain which we all know is within the realm of possibility. The right advocates trashing the Constitution if they don&#8217;t retain control of Congress. What was I thinking?</p>
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		<title>By: Glib Fortuna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glib Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c-tx--

	What about those comments on FPM are facsistic?  The POSTS and comments on Kos and others that I document in a more recent post on this site are from &quot;trusted&quot; Leftist websites and cannot be called anything but demented, conspiratorial and hate-America.  How do you compare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c-tx&#8211;</p>
<p>	What about those comments on FPM are facsistic?  The POSTS and comments on Kos and others that I document in a more recent post on this site are from &#8220;trusted&#8221; Leftist websites and cannot be called anything but demented, conspiratorial and hate-America.  How do you compare?</p>
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		<title>By: camanintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>camanintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bosun,

	First you claimed that Democrats are soft on terror because they are critical of the war in Iraq. When I question this assumption, you said I am confused and that I am not seeing the big picture. You then state that we are in Iraq &quot;battling Iranian Shia influence&quot; which is strange since Saddam&#039;s government was in no way pro-Iranian. One of the main reasons I don&#039;t trust this administration is that they can&#039;t seem to settle on a clear objective. First it was WMD&#039;s, then it was promoting democracy, now it is to bring peace and stability to Iraq. As soon as one excuse falls apart, they just roll out another one. This doesn&#039;t sound like a winning strategy.

	You then dredge up a comment from Daily Kos trying to paint Democrats as conspiracy nuts. You should be careful using such a broad brush, there are nuts on both sides of the fence. You wouldn&#039;t say that all Republicans are fasists because of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=23796&#38;#38;commentID=748445&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these comments&lt;/a&gt; would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bosun,</p>
<p>	First you claimed that Democrats are soft on terror because they are critical of the war in Iraq. When I question this assumption, you said I am confused and that I am not seeing the big picture. You then state that we are in Iraq &#8220;battling Iranian Shia influence&#8221; which is strange since Saddam&#8217;s government was in no way pro-Iranian. One of the main reasons I don&#8217;t trust this administration is that they can&#8217;t seem to settle on a clear objective. First it was WMD&#8217;s, then it was promoting democracy, now it is to bring peace and stability to Iraq. As soon as one excuse falls apart, they just roll out another one. This doesn&#8217;t sound like a winning strategy.</p>
<p>	You then dredge up a comment from Daily Kos trying to paint Democrats as conspiracy nuts. You should be careful using such a broad brush, there are nuts on both sides of the fence. You wouldn&#8217;t say that all Republicans are fasists because of <a href="http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.asp?ID=23796&#38;#38;#38;commentID=748445" rel="nofollow">these comments</a> would you?</p>
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		<title>By: Glib Fortuna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glib Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point D-32.  C-tx -- what do you suppose the &quot;foreign fighters&quot; in Iraq would be doing if not killing in Iraq?

	I can&#039;t believe that there are people who are willing to comment in a public forum, yet when asked for an idea, just one, can&#039;t produce.  This is why I am confident for the future of this country -- the intellectual heft and the vigorous idea-exchange necessary for a healthy society is on the Right side of the debate.  There is much wider range of real ideas over here...if you&#039;d like some intro reading suggestions that demonstrate this truth c-tx, I&#039;d be happy to make some suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point D-32.  C-tx &#8212; what do you suppose the &#8220;foreign fighters&#8221; in Iraq would be doing if not killing in Iraq?</p>
<p>	I can&#8217;t believe that there are people who are willing to comment in a public forum, yet when asked for an idea, just one, can&#8217;t produce.  This is why I am confident for the future of this country &#8212; the intellectual heft and the vigorous idea-exchange necessary for a healthy society is on the Right side of the debate.  There is much wider range of real ideas over here&#8230;if you&#8217;d like some intro reading suggestions that demonstrate this truth c-tx, I&#8217;d be happy to make some suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Draven32</title>
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		<dc:creator>Draven32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 23:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cam-tx:

	So you&#039;d rather Iraq not be a &#039;hotbed of foreign terrorists&#039;, where would you prefer to be &#039;a hotbed of foreign terrorists&#039;- New York, Chicago or L.A.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cam-tx:</p>
<p>	So you&#8217;d rather Iraq not be a &#8216;hotbed of foreign terrorists&#8217;, where would you prefer to be &#8216;a hotbed of foreign terrorists&#8217;- New York, Chicago or L.A.?</p>
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		<title>By: Bosun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bosun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glib,

	 I concur with your synopsis of Iraq.

	camanintx,

	You have the ability to access open source information regarding terrorism and study.  I was once like you, I once though that things were going to be OK.  Don&#039;t think that things will be hunky dori now.

	If you would like to see the free world get through the difficult times ahead, you better open you eyes, ears, and mind.  Gestalt works.  You have to step back and look at various views.

	R/
	Bosun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glib,</p>
<p>	 I concur with your synopsis of Iraq.</p>
<p>	camanintx,</p>
<p>	You have the ability to access open source information regarding terrorism and study.  I was once like you, I once though that things were going to be OK.  Don&#8217;t think that things will be hunky dori now.</p>
<p>	If you would like to see the free world get through the difficult times ahead, you better open you eyes, ears, and mind.  Gestalt works.  You have to step back and look at various views.</p>
<p>	R/<br />
	Bosun</p>
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