The ACLU is a organization that advances libertarian communism, otherwise known as anarchism. The anarchist idea of freedom is not freedom but tyranny by your fellow man instead of by the government.

Most of what the ACLU supports was clearly opposed and condemned by the founders of the United States. John Locke whose writing are the basis of the Declaration of Independence stated that liberty does not justify license. You can choose whether to side with the ACLU against the U.S. Constitution or you can side with the founders of the U.S. against the barbarians, including the ACLU, who seek to destroy the U.S. and remake in their image.

Nothing you say “refutes” my argument. No wonder you Lefties keep losing elections — you think you’ve won an argument by making the same exact argument that has already been shred over and again.

Assuming the first report is true, how many of those six died because the terrorists used them as de facto human shields?

When was the last time the PA has apologized for civilian deaths, civilians being the majority of victims of the Palestinian “resistance?” Sounds like we have two different views on either side about the tragedy of innocent death.

You still haven’t heard…those beach deaths were found to have NOT been the result of a “missile strike” as was initially (hysterically and uncritically) reported. http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Tragedy_On_Gaza_Beach.asp

HRW is not a credible source of reporting on the Israel/PA conflict as its bias is clearly anti-Israel. I will not accept HRW as a source, so you can take their report to the toilet with you.

Sorry, I got my facts wrong (would you ever admit this) in my reference to the innocent mother and daughters killed by “oppressed” Palestinians. In fact, it was a roadside ambush site set up specifically to murder any Jew that happened to pass. Check out the facts here…all too common. Terrorists kill innocent Jews, Isralei soldiers kill the terrorists. http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/3586.htm

http://lindasog.com/public/terrorvictims.htm (Don’t give me a raw “body count” as an argument. I will say it again and again — targeting civilians is not the same thing as civilians dying as a result of being used as human shields by terrorists facing retaliation for their terrorism)

Explain to me how the “Israel Lobby” porevented an unqualified anti-Semite loser like Juan Cole from get a primo seat at Yale? Do Jews have a right to protest a university that matriculates a Taliban official then tried to hire a a known anti-Semite? If Jews protest (assuming what you imply is correct that Jews were behind Cole’s ouster) they suddenly are no longer the “Jewish people,” but morph into the dark, shadowy, international conspirator, Shylock “Israel Lobby,” just so the Left International Socialists (we’ll call them LINZIs) can feel like they have cover for some good ol’ fashoined Jew-baiting and can justify it as you have done.

If you possess an ounce of intellectual honesty and humanity, you’d condemn these cartoons and condemn Palestinian terrorism without qualification as I have done for things that I find abhorrent.

Oh, hate to needle you about this, but I can’t resist…you seem to suffer from little man syndrome, otherwise my references to your naivete would have rolled off your back without comment.

Nedd does have an account but it doesn’t appear that he’s ever posted based on my search of previous posts.

To presume that everyone that posts here is in lock-step regarding issues and views is as silly as holding a publisher to the words of one of its’ authors.

What Glib wrote is what Glib wrote, and Glib stands behind those words. What I wrote is what I wrote and the same goes for me.

Glib does not speak for me, I don’t speak for Glib and that holds true across the entire site. Please do not think that my words are agreed with by Glib or any other writer here…..they are my words, and painting people with such a broad brush only gets you taught a painful lesson about reading before posting, which is the point of this argument to begin with.

The Kos kids accused Jay of something HE didn’t do.

Nobody at this site had anything to do with an address getting posted (as far as I know at this moment)……we simply share goals and a name……why can’t you wrap your little pin head around that fact?

When you respond to my post and use the pronoun “you,” am I on firm ground when I assume that by “you” you mean me? Thought so. It was so easy to dismantle your argument because you failed to address what I wrote. That you are so loose and irresponsible with pronoun use, like a kid throwing a handful of gravel, made me a skeptic of the totality of your ideas. This however sealed the deal for me:

“I think a Palestinian life is equal to an Israeli. Do you disagree? If not, perhaps you should read arguements from the Palestinian side before coming to a conclusion.”

I thought I told you to put your clothes back on youngster! Of course the life of both are equally sacred. What you seem to want to argue is that killing an innocent Israeli mother and her four daughters at a roadblock in cold blood is the same as the IDF killing the “spiritual leader” of a terrorist group. Better than that — what do you think of people who have been running terror operations, who know they will be pursued for their crimes who purposely (as Islamists do as a matter of SOP) mix among the civilian women-children stocked population? There’s not two “sides” to that story.

Tell me Raving, what have you read from the “Palestinian side?” What does that “side” say? OK, I’ll stop messing with you here…I know you have no education, training or expertise in this area. What you’ve written confirms as much. Suggested reading for you (sounds like it may be your first reading on the subject outside of a pamphlet at an ANSWER rally, so I’d lend them to you if we were neighbors):

Six Days of War (Oren)
From Time Immemorial (Peters)
The Case for Israel (Dershowitz)
Myths and Facts (Bard)

On the cartoons:
If you deny the anti-Semitic overtones of those pieces of diaper fill, you can’t be reached. The “artist” blamed THE JEWS. “Corporate power” Jews who secretly control the machinery of our elite institutions no less…this doesn’t sound familiar to you youngster?