Comments on: Supreme Court Rules 5-3: No Military Tribunals, Bush Overstepped Authority http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:01:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Draven32 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52739 Draven32 Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:34:11 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52739 In order for them to be treated under the Geneva Convention, they are either civilians or soldiers. The Geneva Conventions specifically state that in someone fighting in a war that is in the military of a recognized nation, fighting in a recognizable uniform with recognizable rank insignia, is treated as a soldier. Anyone fighting without being in the army of a nation and without rank insignia is defined as a 'spy', to be tried by a military tribunal (usually a field level court martial) and the usual penalty is execution. Today, we use the term 'illegal combatant', but the Geneva convention says they are spies. Both the Allies and the Axis powers applied these same standard during World War II. Hence why being any kind of proto-Special Forces trooper was dangerous in WW2- and still is. In order for them to be treated under the Geneva Convention, they are either civilians or soldiers. The Geneva Conventions specifically state that in someone fighting in a war that is in the military of a recognized nation, fighting in a recognizable uniform with recognizable rank insignia, is treated as a soldier. Anyone fighting without being in the army of a nation and without rank insignia is defined as a ’spy’, to be tried by a military tribunal (usually a field level court martial) and the usual penalty is execution. Today, we use the term ‘illegal combatant’, but the Geneva convention says they are spies.

Both the Allies and the Axis powers applied these same standard during World War II. Hence why being any kind of proto-Special Forces trooper was dangerous in WW2- and still is.

]]> By: gfactor http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52721 gfactor Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:46:04 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52721 "Terrorism is not a crime. It is an act of war." If you say so. The courts said that the procedures as set up under the UCMJ, apply the law of war, which includes geneva. But like I said, I don't think they're protected as soldiers. “Terrorism is not a crime. It is an act of war.”

If you say so. The courts said that the procedures as set up under the UCMJ, apply the law of war, which includes geneva.

But like I said, I don’t think they’re protected as soldiers.

]]> By: Draven32 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52722 Draven32 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:06:51 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52722 Terrorism is not a crime. It is an act of war. Terrorism is not a crime. It is an act of war.

]]> By: gfactor http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52723 gfactor Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:03:31 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52723 "(Both are REQUIRED to be protected as a soldier under the Geneva Convention." I dont think they're protected as soldiers. “(Both are REQUIRED to be protected as a soldier under the Geneva Convention.”

I dont think they’re protected as soldiers.

]]> By: Draven32 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52737 Draven32 Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:41:58 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52737 They have Geneva convention protections? Really? What recognized Nation are they fighting for? What do their uniforms look like? (Both are REQUIRED to be protected as a soldier under the Geneva Convention.) They have Geneva convention protections? Really? What recognized Nation are they fighting for? What do their uniforms look like? (Both are REQUIRED to be protected as a soldier under the Geneva Convention.)

]]> By: gfactor http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52718 gfactor Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:52:48 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52718 "If the Supreme Court of the United States really takes it upon itself to extend Geneva Convention Rights to terrorists and illegal combatants, George W. Bush ought to take Andrew Jackson’s position, and tell Justice Stevens to go enforce his own ruling." They said its up to congress to do this. “If the Supreme Court of the United States really takes it upon itself to extend Geneva Convention Rights to terrorists and illegal combatants, George W. Bush ought to take Andrew Jackson’s position, and tell Justice Stevens to go enforce his own ruling.”

They said its up to congress to do this.

]]> By: PartisanTimes.com http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52719 PartisanTimes.com Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:48:02 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52719 <strong>Supreme Court Ruling Enforces Double Standard For Terrorists</strong> In a 5-3 decision, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the Bush administration does not have the authority to try terrorism suspects by military tribunal. The New York Times reports: The Supreme Court today delivered a sweeping rebuke to Supreme Court Ruling Enforces Double Standard For Terrorists
In a 5-3 decision, the US Supreme Court has ruled that the Bush administration does not have the authority to try terrorism suspects by military tribunal. The New York Times reports: The Supreme Court today delivered a sweeping rebuke to

]]> By: Cigar Intelligence Agency &#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#187; SCOTUS stands with the terrorists http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52724 Cigar Intelligence Agency &#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#187; SCOTUS stands with the terrorists Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:57:15 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52724 [...] In a 5-3 vote yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled against military tribunals for Guantanamo Bay terror suspects, saying they were illegal under US law and the Geneva Convention.  The ACLU applauded the decision.  No surprises there. [...] [...] In a 5-3 vote yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled against military tribunals for Guantanamo Bay terror suspects, saying they were illegal under US law and the Geneva Convention.  The ACLU applauded the decision.  No surprises there. [...]

]]> By: The Pathetic White House Press Corps at 4thelittleguy.com http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52725 The Pathetic White House Press Corps at 4thelittleguy.com Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:48:35 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52725 [...] Hot Air Stop the ACLU has two posts on this. Michelle Malkin [...] [...] Hot Air Stop the ACLU has two posts on this. Michelle Malkin [...]

]]> By: Webloggin http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-52717 Webloggin Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:14:59 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/29/supreme-court-rules-5-3-no-military-tribunals-bush-overstepped-authority/#comment-52717 <strong>Justice Thomas Scathing Dissent - Hits Nail on the Head</strong> Justice Thomas demonstrates why we need clear thinking Justices on the bench. Three Republican nominees sided with the left activists. Thomas&#8217;s dissent is important because it contradicts the liberal contention that this isn&#8217;t a war on terr... Justice Thomas Scathing Dissent – Hits Nail on the Head
Justice Thomas demonstrates why we need clear thinking Justices on the bench. Three Republican nominees sided with the left activists. Thomas&#38;#8217;s dissent is important because it contradicts the liberal contention that this isn&#38;#8217;t a war on terr…

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