Comments on: To desecrate or not to desecrate the flag, what is the answer? http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:04:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Nathanael Massey http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52664 Nathanael Massey Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:27:20 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52664 Any person(s) seen in any act defaming the flag of The United States unless the flag merits proper disposal, proper disposal being placed in a military furnce and burnnt with full honors. that said back to the point any person seen defaming the flag without proper reason should be brought upon on charges of treason which is a fed offense. they should also be required to serve a mandatory term in the military Any person(s) seen in any act defaming the flag of The United States unless the flag merits proper disposal, proper disposal being placed in a military furnce and burnnt with full honors. that said back to the point any person seen defaming the flag without proper reason should be brought upon on charges of treason which is a fed offense.

they should also be required to serve a mandatory term in the military

]]> By: kerwin_brown http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52652 kerwin_brown Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:06:33 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52652 Jason Sonenshien, What is liberal doing cheering for the big business win in Randall v. Sorrell. I supported the law just because it had the possibility of limiting big business interest like George Soros, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and all those other elites out to exploit the people. I always thought liberals supported the poor and now you tell me they just want to use them for political advantage. Jason Sonenshien,

What is liberal doing cheering for the big business win in Randall v. Sorrell. I supported the law just because it had the possibility of limiting big business interest like George Soros, Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and all those other elites out to exploit the people. I always thought liberals supported the poor and now you tell me they just want to use them for political advantage.

]]> By: kerwin_brown http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52653 kerwin_brown Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:00:28 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52653 The proposed amendment just gave congress the right to regulate flag desecration. If I had anything against it is that it should allow states to makes laws regulating flag desecration. The biggest objection I have is I would rather make an amendment limiting the time a federal judges sat on the bench. The proposed amendment just gave congress the right to regulate flag desecration.

If I had anything against it is that it should allow states to makes laws regulating flag desecration.

The biggest objection I have is I would rather make an amendment limiting the time a federal judges sat on the bench.

]]> By: gfactor http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52662 gfactor Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:16:31 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52662 " Or, burn the New York Times building as a protest against their anti-American articles? Isn’t that Free Speech? " The supreme court has addressed this in the context of draft card burning. ” Or, burn the New York Times building as a protest against their anti-American articles? Isn’t that Free Speech? ”

The supreme court has addressed this in the context of draft card burning.

]]> By: No Flag Burning Amendment at 4thelittleguy.com http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52659 No Flag Burning Amendment at 4thelittleguy.com Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:23:59 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52659 [...] Hot Air Stop the ACLU [...] [...] Hot Air Stop the ACLU [...]

]]> By: Jason Sonenshein http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52658 Jason Sonenshein Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:40:47 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52658 "<i>Maybe I’m just a patriotic facist though.</i>" Mr. Stephenson, I'd say you're half right. But seriously, between the defeat of this amendment and the Supreme Court's decision in <i>Randall v. Sorrell</i> (the Vermont campaign finance case), this has been a pretty good week for the First Amendment. “Maybe I’m just a patriotic facist though.”

Mr. Stephenson, I’d say you’re half right.

But seriously, between the defeat of this amendment and the Supreme Court’s decision in Randall v. Sorrell (the Vermont campaign finance case), this has been a pretty good week for the First Amendment.

]]> By: Bosun http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52663 Bosun Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:12:07 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52663 Thank you for your response. I guess the Senate could not get 67 people together to vote for the ammendment. So, its ok to burn a US Flag. Thank you for your response. I guess the Senate could not get 67 people together to vote for the ammendment. So, its ok to burn a US Flag.

]]> By: loboinok http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52661 loboinok Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:28:56 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52661 <i>"Got to weigh the slippery slope with the constitution, bill of rights, and what is good for the country."</i> Agreed, But then we need to go back to the "bill of rights" and read what they say and not what we want to read into them. The first two amendments are a good case-in-point. Our "freedom of speech" in the past seventy years have been expanded while our "right to keep and bear arms" have been restricted. Rights once considered inviolable by most, are now sacrificed on the 'political alter'. We, as a nation, respected the dead at one time, regardless of politics,race,religion or any other ideologies. Now graves are desecrated, vehicles do not pull over for processions, hats are not removed and funeral services are used to espouse hate speech and politics. William Teach's example using the bald eagle is a good one (although they are no longer endangered)and can be expanded to include our national monuments. Try defacing one, claiming free speech. If our rights are precious enough to fight and die for, so are the symbols, icons and monuments that represent and celebrate them. The Constituion of the United States does not give us rights, it outlines them. It is just a piece of paper,albeit, one of the most protected pieces of paper in the world. Try to burn it. “Got to weigh the slippery slope with the constitution, bill of rights, and what is good for the country.”
Agreed, But then we need to go back to the “bill of rights” and read what they say and not what we want to read into them.

The first two amendments are a good case-in-point.

Our “freedom of speech” in the past seventy years have been expanded while our “right to keep and bear arms” have been restricted.

Rights once considered inviolable by most, are now sacrificed on the ‘political alter’.

We, as a nation, respected the dead at one time, regardless of politics,race,religion or any other ideologies.

Now graves are desecrated, vehicles do not pull over for processions, hats are not removed and funeral services are used to espouse hate speech and politics.

William Teach’s example using the bald eagle is a good one (although they are no longer endangered)and can be expanded to include our national monuments. Try defacing one, claiming free speech.

If our rights are precious enough to fight and die for, so are the symbols, icons and monuments that represent and celebrate them.

The Constituion of the United States does not give us rights, it outlines them. It is just a piece of paper,albeit, one of the most protected pieces of paper in the world. Try to burn it.

]]> By: AShiningCity http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52660 AShiningCity Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:11:10 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52660 First off. Thank you Bosun for your service to our country. People like you have helped to make this nation great. I must, however disagree with anyone who supports the amendment: http://shiningcityatopahill.blogspot.com/2006/06/flag-protection-amendment-watch-out-mr.html AND http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/06/burning_the_constitution.html First off. Thank you Bosun for your service to our country. People like you have helped to make this nation great.

I must, however disagree with anyone who supports the amendment:

http://shiningcityatopahill.blogspot.com/2006/06/flag-protection-amendment-watch-out-mr.html

AND

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/blog/2006/06/burning_the_constitution.html

]]> By: Bosun http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-52651 Bosun Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:40:29 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/06/27/to-desecrate-or-not-to-desecrate-the-flag-what-is-the-answer/#comment-52651 Thanks Jay. Appreciate your patriotism. I was in the military for 30 years + (continuous service) and have come to the stark realization that the country is much different now that when I first went on active duty. What was right 30 years ago is now challenged by the ACLU and many times upheld as politically incorrect and wrong. Needless to day, I hold our flag as a symbol of our great nation. Got to weigh the slippery slope with the constitution, bill of rights, and what is good for the country. Thanks Jay. Appreciate your patriotism.

I was in the military for 30 years + (continuous service) and have come to the stark realization that the country is much different now that when I first went on active duty.

What was right 30 years ago is now challenged by the ACLU and many times upheld as politically incorrect and wrong.

Needless to day, I hold our flag as a symbol of our great nation. Got to weigh the slippery slope with the constitution, bill of rights, and what is good for the country.

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