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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52164</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, the page you linked to answers none of my questions. Kerwin didn&#039;t answer any of my questions for you, either.

	&lt;strong&gt;Can&lt;/strong&gt; you answer those questions, or are links to vaguely-related web pages the best you can do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, the page you linked to answers none of my questions. Kerwin didn&#8217;t answer any of my questions for you, either.</p>
<p>	<strong>Can</strong> you answer those questions, or are links to vaguely-related web pages the best you can do?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://ratherbiased.com/compare.htm</description>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerwin_brown said it better than I could.

	Meathead - I wouldn&#039;t accuse your blog writings of being bias. You&#039;re expected to be biased. That&#039;s what your audience comes to read -- your partial perspective.

	Bias is only negative when an non-biased perspective is expected or claimed. Good debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerwin_brown said it better than I could.</p>
<p>	Meathead &#8211; I wouldn&#8217;t accuse your blog writings of being bias. You&#8217;re expected to be biased. That&#8217;s what your audience comes to read &#8212; your partial perspective.</p>
<p>	Bias is only negative when an non-biased perspective is expected or claimed. Good debate.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52167</link>
		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone does not know the difference between commentary which is often biased and news which is supposed to be unbiased.  Commentary is speaking your opinion, hopefully in a reasonable and honest manner in attempt to persuade your reader while news is imparting information to your reader.  This blog is commentary while what Dan Rather did was news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone does not know the difference between commentary which is often biased and news which is supposed to be unbiased.  Commentary is speaking your opinion, hopefully in a reasonable and honest manner in attempt to persuade your reader while news is imparting information to your reader.  This blog is commentary while what Dan Rather did was news.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52165</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;I’m not arguing against BIAS. I’m arguing against DISHONESTY.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
	Strange, isn&#039;t it... the instant I point out to you that, as a blatantly biased commentator, you&#039;re hardly one to be accusing others of blatant bias, you switch to arguing about dishonesty -- a topic that didn&#039;t appear at all in your original post.

	One would almost think you want the &quot;blatant bias&quot; argument that you made to be forgotten.

	&lt;strong&gt;&quot;For decades Walter Cronkite claimed that he was &#039;objective.&#039;&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
	Cite examples in which Cronkite claimed he was objective. And now that you are arguing about &quot;dishonesty&quot;, explain how Cronkite is relevant to your argument. Was he dishonest?

	&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Likewise, Dan Rather spent decades denying his political leanings, but — whether you like Rather or not — a little bit of research reveals that Dan Rather probably never voted for a Republican in his life.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
	Show us the research. You &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; do some research before making that claim, didn&#039;t you? You can explain how &quot;never voted for a Republican in his life&quot; somehow supports your insinuation that Rather was &quot;dishonest&quot;, can&#039;t you?

	What does a &quot;media figure who affect[s] people’s opinions&quot; have to do to earn the &quot;objective&quot; seal of approval, in your eyes? Never vote? Vote &lt;em&gt;only&lt;/em&gt; for Republicans? Kindly explain your somewhat muddled thesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;I’m not arguing against BIAS. I’m arguing against DISHONESTY.&#8221;</strong><br />
	Strange, isn&#8217;t it&#8230; the instant I point out to you that, as a blatantly biased commentator, you&#8217;re hardly one to be accusing others of blatant bias, you switch to arguing about dishonesty &#8212; a topic that didn&#8217;t appear at all in your original post.</p>
<p>	One would almost think you want the &#8220;blatant bias&#8221; argument that you made to be forgotten.</p>
<p>	<strong>&#8220;For decades Walter Cronkite claimed that he was &#8216;objective.&#8217;&#8221;</strong><br />
	Cite examples in which Cronkite claimed he was objective. And now that you are arguing about &#8220;dishonesty&#8221;, explain how Cronkite is relevant to your argument. Was he dishonest?</p>
<p>	<strong>&#8220;Likewise, Dan Rather spent decades denying his political leanings, but — whether you like Rather or not — a little bit of research reveals that Dan Rather probably never voted for a Republican in his life.&#8221;</strong><br />
	Show us the research. You <em>did</em> do some research before making that claim, didn&#8217;t you? You can explain how &#8220;never voted for a Republican in his life&#8221; somehow supports your insinuation that Rather was &#8220;dishonest&#8221;, can&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>	What does a &#8220;media figure who affect[s] people’s opinions&#8221; have to do to earn the &#8220;objective&#8221; seal of approval, in your eyes? Never vote? Vote <em>only</em> for Republicans? Kindly explain your somewhat muddled thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52169</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not arguing against &lt;b&gt;BIAS&lt;/b&gt;. I&#039;m arguing against &lt;b&gt;DISHONESTY&lt;/b&gt;.

	Stop the ACLU has a point of view -- obviously. We explain that. We argue our position everyday. There&#039;s nothing wrong with anyone -- professional media or otherwise -- staking out a position...

	...unless you tell the world on the evening newscast that you&#039;re politically middle of the road -- &quot;objective.&quot;

	Example: For decades &lt;b&gt;Walter Cronkite&lt;/b&gt; claimed that he was &quot;objective.&quot; While anchor of the CBS Evening News, he become known as &quot;the most trusted man in America.&quot;

	Cronkite retired and became an outspoken left-wing political activist. Whether I agree or disagree with him is irrelevant. The fact is -- &lt;b&gt;Walter Cronkite is very left of center&lt;/b&gt; -- and decades of anchoring (despite denials) clearly reflected that.

	Likewise, Dan Rather spent decades denying his political leanings, but -- whether you like Rather or not -- a little bit of research reveals that Dan Rather probably never voted for a Republican in his life.

	Whether I agree with one&#039;s political leaning is not the issue. I enjoy debating in the free market of ideas. What I despise, however, is media figures who affecting people&#039;s opinions by laying claim to that valuable, powerful space in the middle: &quot;objective.&quot;

	You can read more of my thoughts on  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pretendpundit.com/2005/11/_liberal_bias_i_1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;liberal bias&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing against <b>BIAS</b>. I&#8217;m arguing against <b>DISHONESTY</b>.</p>
<p>	Stop the ACLU has a point of view &#8212; obviously. We explain that. We argue our position everyday. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with anyone &#8212; professional media or otherwise &#8212; staking out a position&#8230;</p>
<p>	&#8230;unless you tell the world on the evening newscast that you&#8217;re politically middle of the road &#8212; &#8220;objective.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Example: For decades <b>Walter Cronkite</b> claimed that he was &#8220;objective.&#8221; While anchor of the CBS Evening News, he become known as &#8220;the most trusted man in America.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Cronkite retired and became an outspoken left-wing political activist. Whether I agree or disagree with him is irrelevant. The fact is &#8212; <b>Walter Cronkite is very left of center</b> &#8212; and decades of anchoring (despite denials) clearly reflected that.</p>
<p>	Likewise, Dan Rather spent decades denying his political leanings, but &#8212; whether you like Rather or not &#8212; a little bit of research reveals that Dan Rather probably never voted for a Republican in his life.</p>
<p>	Whether I agree with one&#8217;s political leaning is not the issue. I enjoy debating in the free market of ideas. What I despise, however, is media figures who affecting people&#8217;s opinions by laying claim to that valuable, powerful space in the middle: &#8220;objective.&#8221;</p>
<p>	You can read more of my thoughts on  <a href="http://www.pretendpundit.com/2005/11/_liberal_bias_i_1.html" rel="nofollow"><b>liberal bias</b></a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52170</link>
		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they do. Let me &#039;spell&#039; it out for you:

	This blog is among the most blatantly biased on the net. For a contributor to this blog to accuse others of being blatantly biased as though it were a bad thing is the height of hypocrisy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they do. Let me &#8217;spell&#8217; it out for you:</p>
<p>	This blog is among the most blatantly biased on the net. For a contributor to this blog to accuse others of being blatantly biased as though it were a bad thing is the height of hypocrisy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call, meatbrain. was supposed to correct that. Blogs need spellcheck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call, meatbrain. was supposed to correct that. Blogs need spellcheck.</p>
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		<title>By: meatbrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>meatbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certain that Jim has no idea how endlessly amusing it is to see anyone posting to this blog making an accusation of &quot;blatent &lt;em&gt;(sic)&lt;/em&gt; bias&quot; against someone else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certain that Jim has no idea how endlessly amusing it is to see anyone posting to this blog making an accusation of &#8220;blatent <em>(sic)</em> bias&#8221; against someone else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Crab Boulevard</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/06/17/its-official-dan-rather-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-52168</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Crab Boulevard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I&#38;#8217;d Rather Be In Philadelphia&lt;/strong&gt;

	Which&#38;nbsp;are the words&#38;nbsp;W.C. Fields supposedly suggested for his own tombstone. Well, oddly enough, from the Philadelphia Inquirer comes another story about Dan Rather&#38;#39;s imminent departure from CBS.
	Rather, 74, whose contract runs u...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I&#38;#38;#8217;d Rather Be In Philadelphia</strong></p>
<p>	Which&#38;#38;nbsp;are the words&#38;#38;nbsp;W.C. Fields supposedly suggested for his own tombstone. Well, oddly enough, from the Philadelphia Inquirer comes another story about Dan Rather&#38;#38;#39;s imminent departure from CBS.<br />
	Rather, 74, whose contract runs u&#8230;</p>
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