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	<title>Comments on: Local Sheriff Steps on Feds Toes, ACLU Angry</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: RanbaRal</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/30/local-sheriff-steps-on-feds-toes-aclu-angry/comment-page-1/#comment-51273</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few days late...but I live in Butler County (Hamilton is our county seat) and know people in Hamilton itself.  They were probably released because the Sheriff and judges have been holding illegals until they get to trial; instead of the usual pattern of catch, give a sentencing date, release on own recognizance, person never shows for court date. This means they&#039;re running out of room.  It&#039;s probably made doubly worse since I-75 and I-71 are two of the central/south american drug groups&#039; main smuggling arteries to Michigan, Canada, and the Northeast states.

	Warren and Hamilton Counties are also starting to hold their illegals and liasoning with Butler because the illegals have been flocking into the areas around Butler.  It&#039;s starting to shape into like a county-level alliance of southern Ohio police, which I&#039;m sure ACLU will love too.

	It&#039;s not the first time the county Sheriff has butted heads with ACLU and civil rights groups.  A few years ago he was being badgered for starting a &#039;chaingang&#039;.  Nonviolent criminals were used on roadside details like trash cleanup.  They had electronic monitoring devices on them that alerted the guards if they went outside a certain radius and tracked their movement while they were on the detail.  The civil rights groups were throwing a fit, trying to make it look like forced labor.  It was all volunteer and they actually had a backlist of guys who wanted on it.  Then before that he was catching flack for starting a temporary prison camp to hold overflow criminals while the prison was being expanded (or a new one being built; I can&#039;t remember which now).

	He&#039;s weathered the storm before and has the support of the majority of the people.  As long as he keeps the arrests legit I don&#039;t see that changing any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days late&#8230;but I live in Butler County (Hamilton is our county seat) and know people in Hamilton itself.  They were probably released because the Sheriff and judges have been holding illegals until they get to trial; instead of the usual pattern of catch, give a sentencing date, release on own recognizance, person never shows for court date. This means they&#8217;re running out of room.  It&#8217;s probably made doubly worse since I-75 and I-71 are two of the central/south american drug groups&#8217; main smuggling arteries to Michigan, Canada, and the Northeast states.</p>
<p>	Warren and Hamilton Counties are also starting to hold their illegals and liasoning with Butler because the illegals have been flocking into the areas around Butler.  It&#8217;s starting to shape into like a county-level alliance of southern Ohio police, which I&#8217;m sure ACLU will love too.</p>
<p>	It&#8217;s not the first time the county Sheriff has butted heads with ACLU and civil rights groups.  A few years ago he was being badgered for starting a &#8216;chaingang&#8217;.  Nonviolent criminals were used on roadside details like trash cleanup.  They had electronic monitoring devices on them that alerted the guards if they went outside a certain radius and tracked their movement while they were on the detail.  The civil rights groups were throwing a fit, trying to make it look like forced labor.  It was all volunteer and they actually had a backlist of guys who wanted on it.  Then before that he was catching flack for starting a temporary prison camp to hold overflow criminals while the prison was being expanded (or a new one being built; I can&#8217;t remember which now).</p>
<p>	He&#8217;s weathered the storm before and has the support of the majority of the people.  As long as he keeps the arrests legit I don&#8217;t see that changing any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the House immigration bill requires the local police forces to enforce federal immigration law.  That sounds like they can do so now if they choose to.  The only grounds I see the ACLU might have is whether or not the police has reasonable grounds for suspicion that the individuals were guilty of breaking immigration laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the House immigration bill requires the local police forces to enforce federal immigration law.  That sounds like they can do so now if they choose to.  The only grounds I see the ACLU might have is whether or not the police has reasonable grounds for suspicion that the individuals were guilty of breaking immigration laws.</p>
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