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	<title>Comments on: Fight For Mt. Soledad Cross Goes To Washington</title>
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		<title>By: Wizbang</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/24/fight-for-mt-soledad-cross-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-51007</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizbang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 04:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Remember&lt;/strong&gt;
	[This was originally posted on Friday, but is being bumped up for Memorial Day weekend. Happy Memorial Day.] This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#039;t forget to stop and remember those...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Remember</strong><br />
	[This was originally posted on Friday, but is being bumped up for Memorial Day weekend. Happy Memorial Day.] This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#8217;t forget to stop and remember those&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wizbang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizbang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Remember&lt;/strong&gt;
	[This was originally posted on Friday, but is being bumped up for Memorial Day weekend. ] This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#039;t forget to stop and remember those we honor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Remember</strong><br />
	[This was originally posted on Friday, but is being bumped up for Memorial Day weekend. ] This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#8217;t forget to stop and remember those we honor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Star Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Star Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 20:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Save Mt. Soledad Cross&lt;/strong&gt;
	Don&#039;t deny us the priviledge of memorials in honor of our fallen heros and veterans. These kinds of actions by the ACLU are really getting old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Save Mt. Soledad Cross</strong><br />
	Don&#8217;t deny us the priviledge of memorials in honor of our fallen heros and veterans. These kinds of actions by the ACLU are really getting old.</p>
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		<title>By: Wizbang</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/24/fight-for-mt-soledad-cross-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-51000</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizbang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 14:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Remember&lt;/strong&gt;
	This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#039;t forget to stop and remember those we honor on Memorial Day. More importantly, take the time to teach your children that the day is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Remember</strong><br />
	This weekend, in the middle of your cookouts and family trips and other holiday events, don&#8217;t forget to stop and remember those we honor on Memorial Day. More importantly, take the time to teach your children that the day is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Amboy Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Amboy Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 05:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Save The Mt Soledad Cross!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Mudville Gazette</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 11:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs, other blogs, and the mainstream media. If you&#039;re a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link...</description>
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		<title>By: apostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 07:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is it a particular endorsement of your religion? No.&quot;

	That makes you the biggest idiot in the world. Swearing an oath on the Christian Bible publicly is about as clear an endorsement of religion there is.

	&quot;And name one president who has operated in accordance with what any “good Christian” would recognize as Bibical principles.&quot;

	What does that matter? Whether they practice Christianity or not isn&#039;t the issue. Endorsement is. Nice strawman.

	&quot;Oh, I’m sure they all give thanks to Jesus. Why don’t you survey every member of Congress and ask them what they pray for during the alloted time? Probably to avoid shooting a friend in the face or getting caught lying and cheating like Rove, DeLay, Libby et al.&quot;

	Again irrelevant. Who they pray to, what they pray about, is irrelevant. It is still the goverment PRAYING. Last time I checked that was practicing religion, and they do it on the clock.

	&quot;The idea that Christians and their beliefs merit special treatment is indeed in your imagination.&quot;

	No, its actually in yours. We don&#039;t ask for special treatment. We ask that morons don&#039;t make up the Constitution as they go along, like  people of your ilk seem to do. The government has endorsed religion from day one. You have no evidence to say otherwise.

	&quot;You obviously can’t distinguish old, rote tradition&quot;

	A tradition that endorses religion. Nice try.

	&quot;If you don’t like this, go ahead and find a welcoming Third-World country in which to to set up shop; you’d fit right in.&quot;

	And you&#039;d fit right in to communist Russia, where religion was dead.

	&quot;Classic. I’m not a “lib&quot;

	Sure you are.

	&quot;just check the opinion polls, pal&quot;

	So that is where you got that advanced education you brag about so much! Polls...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is it a particular endorsement of your religion? No.&#8221;</p>
<p>	That makes you the biggest idiot in the world. Swearing an oath on the Christian Bible publicly is about as clear an endorsement of religion there is.</p>
<p>	&#8220;And name one president who has operated in accordance with what any “good Christian” would recognize as Bibical principles.&#8221;</p>
<p>	What does that matter? Whether they practice Christianity or not isn&#8217;t the issue. Endorsement is. Nice strawman.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Oh, I’m sure they all give thanks to Jesus. Why don’t you survey every member of Congress and ask them what they pray for during the alloted time? Probably to avoid shooting a friend in the face or getting caught lying and cheating like Rove, DeLay, Libby et al.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Again irrelevant. Who they pray to, what they pray about, is irrelevant. It is still the goverment PRAYING. Last time I checked that was practicing religion, and they do it on the clock.</p>
<p>	&#8220;The idea that Christians and their beliefs merit special treatment is indeed in your imagination.&#8221;</p>
<p>	No, its actually in yours. We don&#8217;t ask for special treatment. We ask that morons don&#8217;t make up the Constitution as they go along, like  people of your ilk seem to do. The government has endorsed religion from day one. You have no evidence to say otherwise.</p>
<p>	&#8220;You obviously can’t distinguish old, rote tradition&#8221;</p>
<p>	A tradition that endorses religion. Nice try.</p>
<p>	&#8220;If you don’t like this, go ahead and find a welcoming Third-World country in which to to set up shop; you’d fit right in.&#8221;</p>
<p>	And you&#8217;d fit right in to communist Russia, where religion was dead.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Classic. I’m not a “lib&#8221;</p>
<p>	Sure you are.</p>
<p>	&#8220;just check the opinion polls, pal&#8221;</p>
<p>	So that is where you got that advanced education you brag about so much! Polls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The one with a bråin</title>
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		<dc:creator>The one with a bråin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 07:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obviously the establishment clause is not interpreted the way you want it to be.&quot;

	Actually, it is. Consistently and by judges representing the entire range of the political spectrum. Personally I wouldn&#039;t bother with something as trivial as removing a cross from public view, but I&#039;m not the one moaning about it. Deal with it, because this is as good as it&#039;ll ever get for American theocracy proponents.

	&quot;Doesn’t every president in our nation’s history publicly swear on the Bible? Isn’t that an endorsement?&quot;

	Is it a particular endorsement of your religion? No. And name one president who has operated in accordance with what any &quot;good Christian&quot; would recognize as Bibical principles.

	&quot;Doesn’t Congress pray before every session?&quot;

	Oh, I&#039;m sure they all give thanks to Jesus. Why don&#039;t you survey every member of Congress and ask them what they pray for during the alloted time? Probably to avoid shooting a friend in the face or getting caught lying and cheating like Rove, DeLay, Libby et al.

	&quot;How did those Ten Commandments get there in the courthouse in the first place?&quot;

	How? Redneck judges like Roy Moore, who openly say that they couldn&#039;t care less what the Constitution says because, they claim, Bibical laws trump actuial laws. Just the sort of mentality America needs in positions of authority.

	&quot;Why does all of our money say “In God We Trust”? I guess that’s all in our imagination. You’re right, our history shows no sign of goverment endorsed religion.&quot;

	The idea that Christians and their beliefs merit special treatment is indeed in your imagination. You obviously can&#039;t distinguish old, rote tradition (a throwaway phrase on a dollar bill is about as secular a religious reference as you&#039;ll find) from a hunger within the government for specifically embracing Jesus. If the latter were in effect, SCOTUS decisions would reflect as much. Yet for some crazy reason, American courts have for decades ruled in such a way as to preserve church-state separation. You bellyache hollowly about &quot;activist judges,&quot; but cretins who belong in a bygone century like Moore are the biggest robed activists of all. If you don&#039;t like this, go ahead and find a welcoming Third-World country in which to to set up shop; you&#039;d fit right in.

	&quot;...you libs just stick your fingers in your ears every time your educated about it.&quot;

	Classic. I&#039;m not a &quot;lib&quot; (you wouldn&#039;t believe it, but it&#039;s possible to be a social conservative and reject the godly crap that&#039;s been splattered all over the political landscape lately; just check the opinion polls, pal) but that&#039;s beside the point. Want me to point out the irony in your statement up there, or should I wait to see if you finally pass the fourth grade this year before passing judgment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously the establishment clause is not interpreted the way you want it to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Actually, it is. Consistently and by judges representing the entire range of the political spectrum. Personally I wouldn&#8217;t bother with something as trivial as removing a cross from public view, but I&#8217;m not the one moaning about it. Deal with it, because this is as good as it&#8217;ll ever get for American theocracy proponents.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Doesn’t every president in our nation’s history publicly swear on the Bible? Isn’t that an endorsement?&#8221;</p>
<p>	Is it a particular endorsement of your religion? No. And name one president who has operated in accordance with what any &#8220;good Christian&#8221; would recognize as Bibical principles.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Doesn’t Congress pray before every session?&#8221;</p>
<p>	Oh, I&#8217;m sure they all give thanks to Jesus. Why don&#8217;t you survey every member of Congress and ask them what they pray for during the alloted time? Probably to avoid shooting a friend in the face or getting caught lying and cheating like Rove, DeLay, Libby et al.</p>
<p>	&#8220;How did those Ten Commandments get there in the courthouse in the first place?&#8221;</p>
<p>	How? Redneck judges like Roy Moore, who openly say that they couldn&#8217;t care less what the Constitution says because, they claim, Bibical laws trump actuial laws. Just the sort of mentality America needs in positions of authority.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Why does all of our money say “In God We Trust”? I guess that’s all in our imagination. You’re right, our history shows no sign of goverment endorsed religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>	The idea that Christians and their beliefs merit special treatment is indeed in your imagination. You obviously can&#8217;t distinguish old, rote tradition (a throwaway phrase on a dollar bill is about as secular a religious reference as you&#8217;ll find) from a hunger within the government for specifically embracing Jesus. If the latter were in effect, SCOTUS decisions would reflect as much. Yet for some crazy reason, American courts have for decades ruled in such a way as to preserve church-state separation. You bellyache hollowly about &#8220;activist judges,&#8221; but cretins who belong in a bygone century like Moore are the biggest robed activists of all. If you don&#8217;t like this, go ahead and find a welcoming Third-World country in which to to set up shop; you&#8217;d fit right in.</p>
<p>	&#8220;&#8230;you libs just stick your fingers in your ears every time your educated about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Classic. I&#8217;m not a &#8220;lib&#8221; (you wouldn&#8217;t believe it, but it&#8217;s possible to be a social conservative and reject the godly crap that&#8217;s been splattered all over the political landscape lately; just check the opinion polls, pal) but that&#8217;s beside the point. Want me to point out the irony in your statement up there, or should I wait to see if you finally pass the fourth grade this year before passing judgment?</p>
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		<title>By: apostle</title>
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		<dc:creator>apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 06:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have a million social ills in America and people are something as insanely irrelevant as the presence or absence of a giant stick-like object has so many so captivated?&quot;

	Why don&#039;t you ask the ACLU that? They&#039;re the ones that had it removed [edited].

	&quot;Sorry, but your history is neither mine nor America’s as a whole,&quot;

	Yes, it is, you libs just stick your fingers in your ears every time you&#039;re educated about it. Doesn&#039;t every president in our nation&#039;s history publicly swear on the Bible? Isn&#039;t that an endorsement? Doesn&#039;t Congress pray before every session? How did those Ten Commandments get there in the courthouse in the first place? Why does all of our money say &quot;In God We Trust&quot;? I guess that&#039;s all in our imagination. You&#039;re right, our history shows no sign of goverment endorsed religion.

	&quot;Some of you act as though you think that church-state separation in no way benefits or protect religious persons and organizations.&quot;

	Like attacking the Boy Scouts because they discriminate against atheists and queers?

	&quot;That said, I love how WingNut Daily slips in the phrase “so-called separation of church and state” as if this is a fanciful concept rather than an established one carrying the weight of countless rulings by conservative and liberal judges alike.&quot;

	Once again, you quack job libs need to get this through mush brains: the Framers of the Constitution, (you know the guys who actually wrote the establishment clause)saw fit to put most of these practices the ACLU finds so horrifying into play. Obviously the establishment clause is not interpreted the way you want it to be. There is nothing unConstitutional about the cross being put anywhere. Go back to your  own crap blog with your one viewer and let the grown ups talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have a million social ills in America and people are something as insanely irrelevant as the presence or absence of a giant stick-like object has so many so captivated?&#8221;</p>
<p>	Why don&#8217;t you ask the ACLU that? They&#8217;re the ones that had it removed [edited].</p>
<p>	&#8220;Sorry, but your history is neither mine nor America’s as a whole,&#8221;</p>
<p>	Yes, it is, you libs just stick your fingers in your ears every time you&#8217;re educated about it. Doesn&#8217;t every president in our nation&#8217;s history publicly swear on the Bible? Isn&#8217;t that an endorsement? Doesn&#8217;t Congress pray before every session? How did those Ten Commandments get there in the courthouse in the first place? Why does all of our money say &#8220;In God We Trust&#8221;? I guess that&#8217;s all in our imagination. You&#8217;re right, our history shows no sign of goverment endorsed religion.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Some of you act as though you think that church-state separation in no way benefits or protect religious persons and organizations.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Like attacking the Boy Scouts because they discriminate against atheists and queers?</p>
<p>	&#8220;That said, I love how WingNut Daily slips in the phrase “so-called separation of church and state” as if this is a fanciful concept rather than an established one carrying the weight of countless rulings by conservative and liberal judges alike.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Once again, you quack job libs need to get this through mush brains: the Framers of the Constitution, (you know the guys who actually wrote the establishment clause)saw fit to put most of these practices the ACLU finds so horrifying into play. Obviously the establishment clause is not interpreted the way you want it to be. There is nothing unConstitutional about the cross being put anywhere. Go back to your  own crap blog with your one viewer and let the grown ups talk.</p>
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