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	<title>Comments on: ACLU: Abortion is &#8220;necessary medical care&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: The one with a bråin</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50620</link>
		<dc:creator>The one with a bråin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 20:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not like the idea of abortions. Few do, even pro-choicers. But more importantly, I&#039;m not sure what kind of mental deficiency is keeping most of you from understanding CaptainRational&#039;s point. If someone needs to get a court order to obtain a given medical procedure, then she does not have access to that procedure in any traditional sense. You hammherheads make it sound as though getting a court order is a simple end run around a statute and is akin to snapping one&#039;s fingers.

	If you had to get a court order before being permitted to post your daily dose of senselessness onthe Internet, &quot;Glib,&quot; would you not complain that you were being censored? (No need to answer any rhetorical questions.)

	Then again, people who are committed anti-abortionists rarely show even a glimmer of the kind of cognitive dexterity required to appreciate all of the issues at hand here; they just squeeze their beady little eyes shut, plug their ears with their fingers, slap madly away at their Bibles, flippantly and stupidly refer to one-day-old fertilized ova as &quot;babies&quot; and abortion as &quot;murder,&quot; and yammer away like the hapless goofballs they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not like the idea of abortions. Few do, even pro-choicers. But more importantly, I&#8217;m not sure what kind of mental deficiency is keeping most of you from understanding CaptainRational&#8217;s point. If someone needs to get a court order to obtain a given medical procedure, then she does not have access to that procedure in any traditional sense. You hammherheads make it sound as though getting a court order is a simple end run around a statute and is akin to snapping one&#8217;s fingers.</p>
<p>	If you had to get a court order before being permitted to post your daily dose of senselessness onthe Internet, &#8220;Glib,&#8221; would you not complain that you were being censored? (No need to answer any rhetorical questions.)</p>
<p>	Then again, people who are committed anti-abortionists rarely show even a glimmer of the kind of cognitive dexterity required to appreciate all of the issues at hand here; they just squeeze their beady little eyes shut, plug their ears with their fingers, slap madly away at their Bibles, flippantly and stupidly refer to one-day-old fertilized ova as &#8220;babies&#8221; and abortion as &#8220;murder,&#8221; and yammer away like the hapless goofballs they are.</p>
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		<title>By: kerwin_brown</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50619</link>
		<dc:creator>kerwin_brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 06:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the opposition makes sure that court records show that abortion is an act of violence against a human being.  I believe there is already court cases that admit that an Unborn Child is a human being from conception on.  If I am right then the violence is easy to prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the opposition makes sure that court records show that abortion is an act of violence against a human being.  I believe there is already court cases that admit that an Unborn Child is a human being from conception on.  If I am right then the violence is easy to prove.</p>
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		<title>By: Cao's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50618</link>
		<dc:creator>Cao's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 00:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU: Providing Inmates with Abortions is &#38;#8220;necessary medical care&#38;#8221;&lt;/strong&gt;
	See it at Stop the ACLU.
	What is priceless is this:
	The ACLU can&#38;#8217;t even manage to stick to its own story within a single paragraph in the same release. First they claim that inmates are denied &#38;#8220;access to abortion care.&#38;#8221; Two sentences ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ACLU: Providing Inmates with Abortions is &#38;#38;#8220;necessary medical care&#38;#38;#8221;</strong><br />
	See it at Stop the ACLU.<br />
	What is priceless is this:<br />
	The ACLU can&#38;#38;#8217;t even manage to stick to its own story within a single paragraph in the same release. First they claim that inmates are denied &#38;#38;#8220;access to abortion care.&#38;#38;#8221; Two sentences &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Glib Fortuna</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50617</link>
		<dc:creator>Glib Fortuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 00:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They state that the Maricopa County Jail is denying access, not that access is absolutely, 100% denied.&quot;

	Bwwwaaaaaaaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha.  Are you serious?  You&#039;re worse than they are!

	&quot;it seems pretty uncouth to bring up the unpleasant imagery involved with an abortion into this discussion&quot;

	Uncouth?  Abortion is what it is and the ACLU&#039;s position that abortion should be permitted at all times for any reason up to the instant before a baby is completely delivered is &quot;uncouth,&quot; not my accurate descriptions.  I&#039;ve never heard of another &quot;right&quot; that offends someone when properly described, but the abortion debate has been muddled for years by the euphemistic pap you prefer to a real discussion.

	&quot;No one ever said the abortion procedure is like picking daisies&quot;

	No, but the ACLU insists that it&#039;s the same thing as delivering a baby or getting an MRI.  Further, because killing unborn children IS a moral issue (AND a legal one, it&#039;s not either or here), a public entity should apply more scrutiny when public funds and resources (which should never, under any circumstances, be used in pursuit/conduct of an abortion)are involved.

	Maricopa County&#039;s position as a steward of (coercively obtained) taxpayer money requires it to enforce such a policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They state that the Maricopa County Jail is denying access, not that access is absolutely, 100% denied.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Bwwwaaaaaaaaa-ha-ha-ha-ha.  Are you serious?  You&#8217;re worse than they are!</p>
<p>	&#8220;it seems pretty uncouth to bring up the unpleasant imagery involved with an abortion into this discussion&#8221;</p>
<p>	Uncouth?  Abortion is what it is and the ACLU&#8217;s position that abortion should be permitted at all times for any reason up to the instant before a baby is completely delivered is &#8220;uncouth,&#8221; not my accurate descriptions.  I&#8217;ve never heard of another &#8220;right&#8221; that offends someone when properly described, but the abortion debate has been muddled for years by the euphemistic pap you prefer to a real discussion.</p>
<p>	&#8220;No one ever said the abortion procedure is like picking daisies&#8221;</p>
<p>	No, but the ACLU insists that it&#8217;s the same thing as delivering a baby or getting an MRI.  Further, because killing unborn children IS a moral issue (AND a legal one, it&#8217;s not either or here), a public entity should apply more scrutiny when public funds and resources (which should never, under any circumstances, be used in pursuit/conduct of an abortion)are involved.</p>
<p>	Maricopa County&#8217;s position as a steward of (coercively obtained) taxpayer money requires it to enforce such a policy.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainRational</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50616</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainRational</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 23:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ACLU can’t even manage to stick to its own story within a single paragraph in this release. First they claim that inmates are denied &#039;access to abortion care.&#039; Two sentences and another lie later, they acknowledge that an inmate may seek an abortion with a court order!&quot;

	There isn&#039;t a contradiction in that paragraph. They state that the Maricopa County Jail is denying access, not that access is absolutely, 100% denied. Their point is that the inmates shouldn&#039;t need to go to the length of getting a court order for the procedure. Whether you like it or not, inmates have the right to abortions, and it isn&#039;t the jail&#039;s place to deny them transportation. The court is pretty clear in its interpretation of the law.

	Next, it seems pretty uncouth to bring up the unpleasant imagery involved with an abortion into this discussion, which is strictly a legal matter. No one ever said the abortion procedure is like picking daisies, but once again, whether you like it or not it&#039;s still legal. At that same time let me say that you&#039;re definitely entitled to your beliefs concerning the morality of abortion, and I won&#039;t argue against those; however, they&#039;re irrelevant to this case. Now if abortion should someday be outlawed, then by all means...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ACLU can’t even manage to stick to its own story within a single paragraph in this release. First they claim that inmates are denied &#8216;access to abortion care.&#8217; Two sentences and another lie later, they acknowledge that an inmate may seek an abortion with a court order!&#8221;</p>
<p>	There isn&#8217;t a contradiction in that paragraph. They state that the Maricopa County Jail is denying access, not that access is absolutely, 100% denied. Their point is that the inmates shouldn&#8217;t need to go to the length of getting a court order for the procedure. Whether you like it or not, inmates have the right to abortions, and it isn&#8217;t the jail&#8217;s place to deny them transportation. The court is pretty clear in its interpretation of the law.</p>
<p>	Next, it seems pretty uncouth to bring up the unpleasant imagery involved with an abortion into this discussion, which is strictly a legal matter. No one ever said the abortion procedure is like picking daisies, but once again, whether you like it or not it&#8217;s still legal. At that same time let me say that you&#8217;re definitely entitled to your beliefs concerning the morality of abortion, and I won&#8217;t argue against those; however, they&#8217;re irrelevant to this case. Now if abortion should someday be outlawed, then by all means&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/05/15/aclu-abortion-is-necessary-medical-care/comment-page-1/#comment-50615</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 22:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its just sickening to use &quot;care&quot; and abortion in the same sentence, much less as a synonym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its just sickening to use &#8220;care&#8221; and abortion in the same sentence, much less as a synonym.</p>
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