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	<title>Comments on: President Bush Says NSA Leaks Hurt Our Ability To Defeat Enemy</title>
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		<title>By: gfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No names,no addresses, no details of calls…just phone numbers. End of discussion.&quot;

	As you say, your phone number is in the phone book. You can get a name from a number without too much effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No names,no addresses, no details of calls…just phone numbers. End of discussion.&#8221;</p>
<p>	As you say, your phone number is in the phone book. You can get a name from a number without too much effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No names,no addresses, no details of calls...just phone numbers.  End of discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No names,no addresses, no details of calls&#8230;just phone numbers.  End of discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: gfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 00:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People’s phone numbers are in public phone books.&quot;

	This isn&#039;t your phone numbers. This is your calls.

	&quot;I’ll just quote it over here since you obviously didn’t read it.&quot;

	I read it. I know whats at stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People’s phone numbers are in public phone books.&#8221;</p>
<p>	This isn&#8217;t your phone numbers. This is your calls.</p>
<p>	&#8220;I’ll just quote it over here since you obviously didn’t read it.&#8221;</p>
<p>	I read it. I know whats at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Security Issue Kills Domestic Spying Probe

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	The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the</description>
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	The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll just quote it over here since you obviously didn&#039;t read it.

	This doesn&#039;t involve eavesdropping, but merely running these millions of phone numbers and tens of millions of phone contacts through some kind of computer analysis.

	This has nothing to do with the Fourth Amendment. The case law couldn&#039;t be clearer. And those who demand judicial oversight do so not because they want or hope the courts will affirm these intelligence-gathering methods, but because they oppose them and hope some activist court will kill them.


	Disarming as this enemy plots against us, even where the Constitution doesn&#039;t require it, is a perverse view of civil liberties. It&#039;s not the lawyers in the courtrooms who are challenging or will challenge these basic intelligence gather practices who are protecting our civil liberties. It&#039;s the soldiers, spies, intelligence analysts, and law enforcement, led by a president with the guts to face down this enemy, who are doing so.


	Is not life the most important of civil liberties? These intelligence programs are trashed without any curiosity as to whether they&#039;ve prevented any attacks and saved any lives. The hostile responses are largely knee-jerk and lack any kind of context. The arguments are abstract and descend into fear-mongering. While I&#039;m all for philosophical debates, how about a little more reality when it comes to fighting and winning this war—a real war against a horrific enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll just quote it over here since you obviously didn&#8217;t read it.</p>
<p>	This doesn&#8217;t involve eavesdropping, but merely running these millions of phone numbers and tens of millions of phone contacts through some kind of computer analysis.</p>
<p>	This has nothing to do with the Fourth Amendment. The case law couldn&#8217;t be clearer. And those who demand judicial oversight do so not because they want or hope the courts will affirm these intelligence-gathering methods, but because they oppose them and hope some activist court will kill them.</p>
<p>	Disarming as this enemy plots against us, even where the Constitution doesn&#8217;t require it, is a perverse view of civil liberties. It&#8217;s not the lawyers in the courtrooms who are challenging or will challenge these basic intelligence gather practices who are protecting our civil liberties. It&#8217;s the soldiers, spies, intelligence analysts, and law enforcement, led by a president with the guts to face down this enemy, who are doing so.</p>
<p>	Is not life the most important of civil liberties? These intelligence programs are trashed without any curiosity as to whether they&#8217;ve prevented any attacks and saved any lives. The hostile responses are largely knee-jerk and lack any kind of context. The arguments are abstract and descend into fear-mongering. While I&#8217;m all for philosophical debates, how about a little more reality when it comes to fighting and winning this war—a real war against a horrific enemy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever.  People&#039;s phone numbers are in public phone books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever.  People&#8217;s phone numbers are in public phone books.</p>
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		<title>By: gfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He said we are not trolling or mining through people’s personal lifes.&quot;

	I take my phone calls to be part of my private life. That&#039;s why the Bush FTC is going after companies that illegally sell cellphone records. Because people consider those part of their private lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He said we are not trolling or mining through people’s personal lifes.&#8221;</p>
<p>	I take my phone calls to be part of my private life. That&#8217;s why the Bush FTC is going after companies that illegally sell cellphone records. Because people consider those part of their private lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see where he said that at all.  He said we are not trolling or mining through people&#039;s personal lifes.  I don&#039;t see where he said we were not collecting data on what phone numbers called other phone numbers.  Go read what I sent you to read again, and read it very closely.  You obviously missed the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see where he said that at all.  He said we are not trolling or mining through people&#8217;s personal lifes.  I don&#8217;t see where he said we were not collecting data on what phone numbers called other phone numbers.  Go read what I sent you to read again, and read it very closely.  You obviously missed the message.</p>
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		<title>By: gfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Go read this and come back.&quot;

	Thats about data mining. Bush said we&#039;re not data mining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Go read this and come back.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Thats about data mining. Bush said we&#8217;re not data mining.</p>
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		<title>By: Right on the Right &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; NSA Updates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right on the Right &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; NSA Updates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 19:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] FISA is constantly used as a talking point of the Left. It was a breach of FISA law that was used as an excuse to censure President Bush, and it turns out, that breach never existed. President Bush sums up the national security best:  THE PRESIDENT: “After September the 11th, I vowed to the American people that our government would do everything within the law to protect them against another terrorist attack. As part of this effort, I authorized the National Security Agency to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FISA is constantly used as a talking point of the Left. It was a breach of FISA law that was used as an excuse to censure President Bush, and it turns out, that breach never existed. President Bush sums up the national security best:  THE PRESIDENT: “After September the 11th, I vowed to the American people that our government would do everything within the law to protect them against another terrorist attack. As part of this effort, I authorized the National Security Agency to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations. [...]</p>
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