Comments on: History Of The ACLU Part 4 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:59:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Conservative Blog Therapy http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48881 Conservative Blog Therapy Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:27 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48881 <strong>Stop the ACLU!</strong> Both sites, stoptheaclu.com and stoptheaclu.org, are outstanding resources. If you're not a regular visitor, I highly recommend checking them out and signing up for their newsletters. Stop the ACLU!
Both sites, stoptheaclu.com and stoptheaclu.org, are outstanding resources. If you’re not a regular visitor, I highly recommend checking them out and signing up for their newsletters.

]]> By: meatbrain http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48880 meatbrain Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:59:19 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48880 And still Gribbit cannot provide the facts to support his claims. One wonders if he ever will... And still Gribbit cannot provide the facts to support his claims. One wonders if he ever will…

]]> By: apostle http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48879 apostle Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:48:11 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48879 "1) Doesn’t the phrase “under God” in the Pledge kind of violate the First Amendment, too?" No, unless you are going to accuse every American politician that has ever lived of violating the establishment clause, since every president in history had to swear in on the Holy Bible, clearly an endorsement of religion. Also, every Congressman who has ever lived has prayed before every session with the rest of his/her peers, or at least shut up while others did so. A clear endorsement of religion. Face it: the establishment clause doesn't mean what you want it to. “1) Doesn’t the phrase “under God” in the Pledge kind of violate the First Amendment, too?”

No, unless you are going to accuse every American politician that has ever lived of violating the establishment clause, since every president in history had to swear in on the Holy Bible, clearly an endorsement of religion. Also, every Congressman who has ever lived has prayed before every session with the rest of his/her peers, or at least shut up while others did so. A clear endorsement of religion. Face it: the establishment clause doesn’t mean what you want it to.

]]> By: CaptainRational http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48878 CaptainRational Tue, 04 Apr 2006 01:01:54 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48878 He's probably talking about the Pledge case from California a few years ago. You can read about it here: http://www.aclu.org/scotus/2003/13914prs20040324.html. The court's decision was ultimately overturned on a technicality. Anyway... 1) Doesn't the phrase "under God" in the Pledge kind of violate the First Amendment, too? 2) "Banned" is not the right word, either. Kids are free to say the Pledge on their own time, just like they can pray on their own time. Forcing kids to say it or having them leave the room while the rest of the class says it is where the problem lies. He’s probably talking about the Pledge case from California a few years ago. You can read about it here: http://www.aclu.org/scotus/2003/13914prs20040324.html.

The court’s decision was ultimately overturned on a technicality. Anyway…
1) Doesn’t the phrase “under God” in the Pledge kind of violate the First Amendment, too?

2) “Banned” is not the right word, either. Kids are free to say the Pledge on their own time, just like they can pray on their own time. Forcing kids to say it or having them leave the room while the rest of the class says it is where the problem lies.

]]> By: meatbrain http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48877 meatbrain Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:49:28 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48877 "I would thinking having the Pledge banned in public school is a pretty big violation of certain free speech rights, wouldn’t you?" I would think that if that claim has any validity, you'll easily be able to provide some factual backing for it. Which public schools have banned the Pledge of Allegiance, and what specific role did the ACLU play in events? “I would thinking having the Pledge banned in public school is a pretty big violation of certain free speech rights, wouldn’t you?”

I would think that if that claim has any validity, you’ll easily be able to provide some factual backing for it. Which public schools have banned the Pledge of Allegiance, and what specific role did the ACLU play in events?

]]> By: apostle http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48876 apostle Mon, 03 Apr 2006 11:30:31 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48876 I would thinking having the Pledge banned in public school is a pretty big violation of certain free speech rights, wouldn't you? I would thinking having the Pledge banned in public school is a pretty big violation of certain free speech rights, wouldn’t you?

]]> By: CaptainRational http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48875 CaptainRational Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:22:28 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48875 Once again you've listed a bunch of facts linking early ACLU members to the Communist Party. Once again I'll ask, so what? This nation was founded by slave owners. Does that make all of us Americans here in 2006 evil by association? I definitely agree with Mr. Meatbrain. If anything I'd say we have more freedom to exercise our rights because of the ACLU! Once again you’ve listed a bunch of facts linking early ACLU members to the Communist Party. Once again I’ll ask, so what?

This nation was founded by slave owners. Does that make all of us Americans here in 2006 evil by association?

I definitely agree with Mr. Meatbrain. If anything I’d say we have more freedom to exercise our rights because of the ACLU!

]]> By: meatbrain http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/comment-page-1/#comment-48874 meatbrain Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:11:21 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/04/02/history-of-the-aclu-part-4/#comment-48874 "I am totally shocked at the notion that many people don’t even know that this very organization is destroying their rights." Then I have a very simple question: Which of my rights can I no longer exercise because of direct action by the ACLU? “I am totally shocked at the notion that many people don’t even know that this very organization is destroying their rights.”

Then I have a very simple question: Which of my rights can I no longer exercise because of direct action by the ACLU?

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