Comments on: Did Scalia Give The Media The Finger At Church? http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:04:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » I Missed This One http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48722 Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » I Missed This One Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:48:18 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48722 [...] Fortunately, Betsy Newmark didn’t. Jay over at Stop the ACLU has a great roundup of the latest smear job perpetrated by the MSM. Several news outlets (AP, Boston Herald) have reported that Justice Antonin Scalia made an obscene gesture while answering a reporters question. Note that the original Herald story has now been blatantly altered to "clarify" the "obscene" gesture. How do I know this? Easy, the alteration was made in a completely different typeface and my drag and drop picked it up. (Unfortunately, my blog overrides incoming formatting, so it won’t display the altered text.) I bolded the new words below:  “You know what I say to those people?” Scalia, 70, replied, making an obscene gesture, flicking his hand under his chin when asked by a Herald reporter if he fends off a lot of flak for publicly celebrating his conservative Roman Catholic beliefs. [...] [...] Fortunately, Betsy Newmark didn’t. Jay over at Stop the ACLU has a great roundup of the latest smear job perpetrated by the MSM. Several news outlets (AP, Boston Herald) have reported that Justice Antonin Scalia made an obscene gesture while answering a reporters question. Note that the original Herald story has now been blatantly altered to "clarify" the "obscene" gesture. How do I know this? Easy, the alteration was made in a completely different typeface and my drag and drop picked it up. (Unfortunately, my blog overrides incoming formatting, so it won’t display the altered text.) I bolded the new words below:  “You know what I say to those people?” Scalia, 70, replied, making an obscene gesture, flicking his hand under his chin when asked by a Herald reporter if he fends off a lot of flak for publicly celebrating his conservative Roman Catholic beliefs. [...]

]]> By: loboinok http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48707 loboinok Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:05:39 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48707 "You got a Bible Study <b>student</b> in your midst such as myself, and you rely on Jesus for information?" ;) You are good though. “You got a Bible Study student in your midst such as myself, and you rely on Jesus for information?” ;)

You are good though.

]]> By: apostle http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48708 apostle Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:27:05 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48708 Lobo: You got a Bible Study student in your midst such as myself, and you rely on Jesus for information? Oh, wait... Lobo: You got a Bible Study student in your midst such as myself, and you rely on Jesus for information? Oh, wait…

]]> By: Stingray: a blog for salty Christians http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48709 Stingray: a blog for salty Christians Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:10:55 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48709 <strong>links for 2006-03-28</strong> Feeling the Pain of the Falling Man of 9/11 &#8212; 03/24/2006 When one accepts the fact &#8212; and it is a fact &#8212; that the free world, not just the United States, is at war with radical Islam, this story is all the more chilling and disturbing... links for 2006-03-28
Feeling the Pain of the Falling Man of 9/11 &#38;#8212; 03/24/2006 When one accepts the fact &#38;#8212; and it is a fact &#38;#8212; that the free world, not just the United States, is at war with radical Islam, this story is all the more chilling and disturbing…

]]> By: loboinok http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48710 loboinok Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:02:36 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48710 "Aquinas never used the word “church” to describe what you call “God’s church,” and he’d be the authority about the difference." Then ask Aquinas! No offense, but I'm not Catholic. My authority is Christ. When all else fails, I use 'The Wiley Office Handbook.' ;) “Aquinas never used the word “church” to describe what you call “God’s church,” and he’d be the authority about the difference.”

Then ask Aquinas!

No offense, but I’m not Catholic. My authority is Christ. When all else fails, I use ‘The Wiley Office Handbook.’ ;)

]]> By: Jay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48711 Jay Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:53:38 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48711 Oh, and if you are interested in a particular topic, use our little search bar in the top left. Oh, and if you are interested in a particular topic, use our little search bar in the top left.

]]> By: Jay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48712 Jay Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:53:07 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48712 I'll check it out. Thanks. I've read both of William Donahue's books on the ACLU which are the "Polictics of the American Civil Liberties Union" and "Twilight of Liberty". I suggest those books too. I have also read Alan Sears' book, "The ACLU vs. America." Also suggested. I am familiar with the ACLU's founding. Welcome to the blog. Feel free to search our archives and you will find a lot of materiel on their founding and much more. I’ll check it out. Thanks. I’ve read both of William Donahue’s books on the ACLU which are the “Polictics of the American Civil Liberties Union” and “Twilight of Liberty”. I suggest those books too. I have also read Alan Sears’ book, “The ACLU vs. America.” Also suggested.

I am familiar with the ACLU’s founding. Welcome to the blog. Feel free to search our archives and you will find a lot of materiel on their founding and much more.

]]> By: pericles1979 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48713 pericles1979 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:45:21 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48713 Of course, I understand. And I must admit to being a first-time reader of the blog. Given the nature of title of the blog, you should check out an article from the November 2004 issue of the Duke Law Journal called "The Internationalist Beginnings of American Civil Liberties." (Available free at www.law.duke.edu.) The article focuses on Crystal Eastman, a radical who helped found the ACLU with Roger Nash Baldwin, and the beginnings of the ACLU itself in the turmoil of WWI. Very interesting. It's also a good primer about how the ACLU gave the First Amendment some real substance, in that before WWI it was - surprisingly - never really litigated or "used." Moreover, it's a fun narrative read. Of course, I understand. And I must admit to being a first-time reader of the blog. Given the nature of title of the blog, you should check out an article from the November 2004 issue of the Duke Law Journal called “The Internationalist Beginnings of American Civil Liberties.” (Available free at http://www.law.duke.edu.) The article focuses on Crystal Eastman, a radical who helped found the ACLU with Roger Nash Baldwin, and the beginnings of the ACLU itself in the turmoil of WWI. Very interesting. It’s also a good primer about how the ACLU gave the First Amendment some real substance, in that before WWI it was – surprisingly – never really litigated or “used.” Moreover, it’s a fun narrative read.

]]> By: Jay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48714 Jay Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:27:23 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48714 Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to sound rude there, but I am no English major, nor am I seeking any type of journalism career. This is merely a place for me to express my thoughts. Yeah, sorry. I didn’t mean to sound rude there, but I am no English major, nor am I seeking any type of journalism career. This is merely a place for me to express my thoughts.

]]> By: pericles1979 http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/comment-page-1/#comment-48715 pericles1979 Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:18:37 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/03/27/did-scalia-give-the-media-the-finger-at-church/#comment-48715 Loboinok - Aquinas never used the word "church" to describe what you call "God's church," and he'd be the authority about the difference. Jay - I wouldn't call it a "mistake," but I understand your point, which is why I acknowledged it was slightly off point. In any event, to the substance, as a federal appellate law clerk (working for a notable conservative judge, at that), I have no problem with Scalia's remark/behavior. He has a sense of humor others lack. Moreover, and more relevant, I have no problem with his comment about combatants lacking rights...this whole [edited] about never prejudging a case is tiresome. Some questions are sufficiently abstract (especially in the Article II arena) that comments such as his simply won't affect his judgment. At the same time, however, judicial ethics are about eliminating the appearance of impropriety - even if not impropriety itself. So that is the real danger here. Unfortunately, with the partisan vitriol bandied about these days, there will always be an appearance of impropriety. Loboinok – Aquinas never used the word “church” to describe what you call “God’s church,” and he’d be the authority about the difference.

Jay – I wouldn’t call it a “mistake,” but I understand your point, which is why I acknowledged it was slightly off point. In any event, to the substance, as a federal appellate law clerk (working for a notable conservative judge, at that), I have no problem with Scalia’s remark/behavior. He has a sense of humor others lack. Moreover, and more relevant, I have no problem with his comment about combatants lacking rights…this whole [edited] about never prejudging a case is tiresome. Some questions are sufficiently abstract (especially in the Article II arena) that comments such as his simply won’t affect his judgment. At the same time, however, judicial ethics are about eliminating the appearance of impropriety – even if not impropriety itself. So that is the real danger here. Unfortunately, with the partisan vitriol bandied about these days, there will always be an appearance of impropriety.

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