Opinion Journal had a good article about Just call me Bill.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002091

“We can understand Mr. Clinton wanting to defend himself, but as usual he can’t get his own facts straight. His introduction of Somalia here is one of those breathtakingly brazen attempts to dodge responsibility for which Mr. Clinton is justly famous. Here’s the real history:

President Bush the Elder sent U.S. forces into Somalia in December 1992 to aid the United Nations in relieving a massive famine. In May of 1993, four months into his term, President Clinton declared that mission accomplished and pulled out most of the U.S. force. In a speech on the South Lawn to associate himself with the effort, he extolled the decision to intervene: “If all of you who served had not gone, it is absolutely certain that tens of thousands would have died by now.” It was a “successful mission,” he said, and “proved yet again that American leadership can help to mobilize international action.”

But back in Somalia, with no U.S. deterrent, Somalia’s warlords began fighting again. After a series of bloody attacks on U.N. peacekeepers, Mr. Clinton launched a new mission: In August 1993, he sent in a force of Rangers and Special Forces units to capture the brutal warlord Mohammad Farrah Aidid and restore order.

That force asked for heavy armor–in the form of Abrams tanks and Bradley armored vehicles–as well as the AC-130 gunship, but the Clinton Administration denied those requests. On October 3 on a mission to pick up Aidid, two Black Hawks were unexpectedly shot down; in the ensuing urban gun battle, 18 American soldiers were killed and another 73 injured.”

The ugly thing is Just call me Bill does not always tell the truth and depending on who he is talking to you may get several different answers. Son, he knew. Your beloved President has embellished the truth a time or to. He also told the country that he did not have sex with that woman. And, then he redefined the meaning of is. He knew. And do not let anyone tell you differently. Now, listen to Rush Limbaugh for 30 days (just monday through friday at least one hour a day.) Then listen to Micheal Savage in the afternoons same amount of time. BTW, Micheal hates Rush, Sean, and Bill with a passion. After 30 days, we can sit down and talk again.

Also, let me know what Mark said, if he gets back with you. I hope that he does. You may learn a thing or two. (Al-Qaeda operatives were at Mogadishu, you can bet on it.)

You gotta be kidding me. IF, Clinton said he did not know they were there, it was BALONEY. He was the Commander in Chief. He got daily operational briefings. He was the guy, along with his advisors who escalated the Somalia operation. I advise you to talk with military people who were on the ground. Some will talk, others will not. They will fill you in on the relationship of the President, Secretary of Defense, Cabinet and all the rest.

I have heard a couple things about the way Clinton ran things, but, I am going to keep those comments to myself. He was supposed to know. If he did not, he was incompetent. Without a doubt that President Clinton knew about our troops on the ground, and received briefings on the subject. When the helicopter went down, unless he was getting pleasure from Monica or another girlfriend (I think that was before Monica) and ordered his advisors not to interrupt, he was briefed about it till the end. Then again, if he was playing golf, maybe he told the advisors not to bother him, but, that too is unlikely.

I am not sure how much you know about the government and chain of command. Clinton knew, and more than likely he and his Sec Def drug their feet and did not act. Our people were waiting. The military was waiting for assistance that did not come. A lot of it was the foreign United Nations forces that did not back us up.

Part of the rife was the United States and United Nations were not playing on the same sheet of music, so to speak. We did not have the right equipment and we did not have the support we needed. The democrat controlled congress also knew.

Check out the information from the Philly Inquirer

http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/

Email Mark Bowden, he might still he with the Philadelphia Inquirer. I think you will be able to locate his email. Bowden might talk with you. Then again, he might not. Read his book and his account of what happened. Delta force will tell you to go were the sun does not shine. But if you do enough research you might get hooked up with some retired Rangers or other special forces who may discuss it with you. However, you might want to tread lightly, it is still a very sore subject. Don’t act liberalist around them. You did offend me by the “Clinton said he did not know,” baloney. Obviously you never served. And, I am not going to do your research for you get in there, roll up your sleeves and start to research. You were bright enough to catch the fact that Bush was there for a short time in the early stages.

Remember the adminstration power vacumn and that Clintonistas thought that this was going to show the country how savvy he was was. It showed me he had a bad group of advisors and did not listen to his military. Not all were cowboys on a cake walk.

It was Bush sending them there initially that let Clinton get away with the “I didn’t even know we had people over there” line to the footage of Shughart and Gordan being drug through the streets.

When it comes down to it, I much prefer the cute little nicknames the Left has for us, vs. the ones we have for them. Surrender Monkeys, Defeatocrats, Demorats, Loons, Leftards, and so on.

First — it is ironic that in a post complaining about ‘name-calling’ you repeatedly use the clever epithet ‘Dumocrat.’

Second — most liberals don’t understand neoconservatism. In calling the neocons converted leftists, you get surprisingly close to the actual definition. But I’m not sure you have much of a clue, either.

The forefathers of neoconservatism (Irving Kristol, the CCNY crew, etc), were former Communists who turned conservative when the academic left turned anti-war in the 60s. A true neocon is a patriotic, military-supporting liberal of sorts: unlike a paleocon or traditional conservative, he is not an isolationist or a believer in the need for small government.

Neoconservatism partially explains why the Republicans, not the Democrats, are now seen as the hopeless, meddling idealists in foreign policy. Pointing out that the positions were reversed in WWII is a useless argument against the Democrats, because the two parties were simply of a different composition in Roosevelt’s time than in ours.

One can find the more academic side of neoconservatism in Leo Strauss and his student Allan Bloom. Their cult of dedicated scholars — the Straussians — are deemed responsible for educating many of the people who had a great influence in bringing about the Iraq war.

Clinton has some looney advisors who mismanaged most everything really important.

He was a bandaid President and very handy at bombing asprin factories and empty terrorist training camps.

Old bin Laden was really shaking because of Bill. I imagine that he and the rest of his shaman al-Qaeda boys were sitting around the tent drinking arabian coffee and laughing about Bill the Infidel. Infidel Bill flying off the handle with his cruise missles not having a clue what he was doing.

For sure, al-Qaeda thought they knew how to conquer the US after the Black Hawk was shot down in Somolia and Bill ran with his tail between his legs.

Hey Kennedy pulled the plug on the Free Cubanos during the Bay of Pigs at the 11th hour because he did not feel comfortable with the operation. Thanks to that, good old Fidel has been around ever since.

U.S. Invasion of Somalia, 1993

U.S. and allied troops invaded and occupied Somalia in the early 1990s, bringing a reign of terror. U.S. troops considered Somalis less than human and called them “skinnies” or “sammies.” On September 19, 1993, the U.S. Army 10th Mountain Division shot missiles into a crowd from a helicopter, killing 100 unarmed people. U.S. troops flew their powerful Black Hawk helicopters low over markets, streets, and neighborhoods at any hour of the day or night. The intense downdraft from the helicopter blades damaged and destroyed entire neighborhoods, blowing down homes, mosques, market stalls, and walls. (My source was a Communist website just so you know.)

Slick Willy and his so-called wife, infested the White House beginning on January 20, 1993 at 12 noon.

Our initial invasion did take place in December of 1992, during President George H.W. Bush’s term, however, the operation was turned over to the Useless Nations in May of 1993 and our military presence was reduced to 2,500 troops. These were decisions made by our Commander-In-Thief William Jefferson Clinton aka Slick Willy. A moron in the ways of military tactics.

Then he went on to move against Haiti then into the Balkins. It seems that Clinton was no stranger to operating against nations which had no tactical significance as a threat to the United States. But bomb our embassies what does he do? He attacks empty tents in Afghanistan using Cruise Missiles. Attempt to sink one of our war ships? He sends in more Cruise Missiles against abandoned training camps. Spineless snake.

It was under Clinton that it became about snagging Adid and equipment requested that would have made the mission safer for the troops was denied to them out of fear of making it too ‘high-profile’.