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		<title>By: The Strata-Sphere &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; Democrats, NY Times, ACLU Align With Al Qaeda</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47140</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strata-Sphere &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; Democrats, NY Times, ACLU Align With Al Qaeda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 00:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Now some of these same folks are all up in arms about an Ayrab company (run by Americans and using American/green cars workers, all requiring bckground checks) risking our lives, but in the next breath want to shutdown all monitoring of our enemies and tip them off. Indicted terrorist sympathizers are judge shopping to have the entire thing shutdown. The NY Times is suing to have all leads and numbers made public (and I guess they think we are all morons so we couldn&#38;#8217;t possibly see this as tipping off the terrorists here in our country). It is not unlikely the NY Times will find their useful idiot on some bench somewhere - it has happened already before. And the ACLU wants us to just stop all intelligence gathering, so we can LITERALLY be like lambs to the slaughter (ear to bloody ear). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Now some of these same folks are all up in arms about an Ayrab company (run by Americans and using American/green cars workers, all requiring bckground checks) risking our lives, but in the next breath want to shutdown all monitoring of our enemies and tip them off. Indicted terrorist sympathizers are judge shopping to have the entire thing shutdown. The NY Times is suing to have all leads and numbers made public (and I guess they think we are all morons so we couldn&#38;#38;#8217;t possibly see this as tipping off the terrorists here in our country). It is not unlikely the NY Times will find their useful idiot on some bench somewhere &#8211; it has happened already before. And the ACLU wants us to just stop all intelligence gathering, so we can LITERALLY be like lambs to the slaughter (ear to bloody ear). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: apostle</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47139</link>
		<dc:creator>apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 18:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Okay so some terroist in the US has a phone number that’s 1 digit off from yours. Their terrorist buddies call you three times in one week and just hang up when they hear your voice.&quot;

	You should write movies for Hollywood. That&#039;s about the only place that scenario would play out. Do you have evidence of this happening?

	&quot;If you don’t want protection, fine. I do.&quot;

	I do want protection. I want protection from Al Quada and every other terrorist organization out there, including the ACLU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Okay so some terroist in the US has a phone number that’s 1 digit off from yours. Their terrorist buddies call you three times in one week and just hang up when they hear your voice.&#8221;</p>
<p>	You should write movies for Hollywood. That&#8217;s about the only place that scenario would play out. Do you have evidence of this happening?</p>
<p>	&#8220;If you don’t want protection, fine. I do.&#8221;</p>
<p>	I do want protection. I want protection from Al Quada and every other terrorist organization out there, including the ACLU.</p>
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		<title>By: RedSonja2000</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47138</link>
		<dc:creator>RedSonja2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am not a terrorist, so I have nothing to worry about, my phone isn&#039;t tapped.&quot;

	Okay so some terroist in the US has a phone number that&#039;s 1 digit off from yours. Their terrorist buddies call you three times in one week and just hang up when they hear your voice.

	All of a sudden you have no rights as an American citizen. You can be wiretapped without a warrant. You can be abducted and held without a lawyer or charges for literally years. You can be tortured. That&#039;s ironic because there&#039;s nothing you could divulge, even in principle, to get them to stop.

	&quot;First, a legal citizen of the U.S. that aids the enemy has committed treason, and the only right that person has at that point is to die a quick death.&quot;

	You should actually read the Constituion sometime. It can be very entertaining.
	&quot;Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.&quot;

	In other words there MUST be a trial. The format of trials are carefully spelled out in the Constitution. There has to be a lawyer and a jury. So an American citizen accused of treason has several constitutional rights that neither you nor George Bush have a right to take away.

	And that&#039;s for your own protection. If you don&#039;t want protection, fine. I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not a terrorist, so I have nothing to worry about, my phone isn&#8217;t tapped.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Okay so some terroist in the US has a phone number that&#8217;s 1 digit off from yours. Their terrorist buddies call you three times in one week and just hang up when they hear your voice.</p>
<p>	All of a sudden you have no rights as an American citizen. You can be wiretapped without a warrant. You can be abducted and held without a lawyer or charges for literally years. You can be tortured. That&#8217;s ironic because there&#8217;s nothing you could divulge, even in principle, to get them to stop.</p>
<p>	&#8220;First, a legal citizen of the U.S. that aids the enemy has committed treason, and the only right that person has at that point is to die a quick death.&#8221;</p>
<p>	You should actually read the Constituion sometime. It can be very entertaining.<br />
	&#8220;Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.&#8221;</p>
<p>	In other words there MUST be a trial. The format of trials are carefully spelled out in the Constitution. There has to be a lawyer and a jury. So an American citizen accused of treason has several constitutional rights that neither you nor George Bush have a right to take away.</p>
<p>	And that&#8217;s for your own protection. If you don&#8217;t want protection, fine. I do.</p>
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		<title>By: apostle</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47137</link>
		<dc:creator>apostle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“Wire tap me! I don’t care! Don’t get a warrent to investigate me! Hey, no problem. I don’t even want a jury trial!”

	I&#039;m not a terrorist, so I have nothing to worry about, my phone isn&#039;t tapped.

	&quot;Well, fewer and fewer conservatives are comfortable with that. Too many of them commit crimes and get caught for it.&quot;

	Actually, the majority of Americans could care less, as most polls show. Also, conservatives are not committing crimes and getting caught as your irresponsible comment implies. Unless of course you have evidence that Congress does not.

	&quot; yes, they do. They absolutely must.&quot;

	No, they absolutely must not. First, a legal citizen of the U.S. that aids the enemy has committed treason, and the only right that person has at that point is to die a quick death. Second, the fact that you libs think that the government is arbitrarily tapping whatever phones they want proves that your tin foil hat is on too tight again. It has yet to be proven that Bush did anything illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“Wire tap me! I don’t care! Don’t get a warrent to investigate me! Hey, no problem. I don’t even want a jury trial!”</p>
<p>	I&#8217;m not a terrorist, so I have nothing to worry about, my phone isn&#8217;t tapped.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Well, fewer and fewer conservatives are comfortable with that. Too many of them commit crimes and get caught for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Actually, the majority of Americans could care less, as most polls show. Also, conservatives are not committing crimes and getting caught as your irresponsible comment implies. Unless of course you have evidence that Congress does not.</p>
<p>	&#8221; yes, they do. They absolutely must.&#8221;</p>
<p>	No, they absolutely must not. First, a legal citizen of the U.S. that aids the enemy has committed treason, and the only right that person has at that point is to die a quick death. Second, the fact that you libs think that the government is arbitrarily tapping whatever phones they want proves that your tin foil hat is on too tight again. It has yet to be proven that Bush did anything illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: RedSonja2000</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47136</link>
		<dc:creator>RedSonja2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loboinok:
	&quot;“U.S. citizen” as refered to here is someone with citizenship, aiding and abetting the enemy and do not enjoy the same protections you and I do.&quot;

	yes, they do. They absolutely must.

	&quot;Are you trying to tell us that citizens that have been on the recieving end of a wiretap are innocent citizens by virtue of their “citizenship”?

	no. I&#039;m saying you are not stripped of your constitutional rights because somebody somewhere suspects you of something. We aren&#039;t talking about convictions here. Warrantless wiretaps are not even admissible in court, so convictions for treason or whatever would be impossible. Even a bad lawyer would have them walking out the door scot free.

	I&#039;m talking about the CIA or whoever being the final authority over whether or not YOU are a citizen with constititonal protections.

	If  you are a legal citizen of this country, all the legal rights and protections apply. It doesn&#039;t matter a damn where your parents came from or even where you were born. If those things can be stripped from the bad guys they can just as easily be stripped from you and me.

	Your constitutional rights and protections as a citizen of the US should not be something you pitch out the window lightly. If you don&#039;t want rights, there are lots of countries out there where you can live without them. *I* want to keep them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loboinok:<br />
	&#8220;“U.S. citizen” as refered to here is someone with citizenship, aiding and abetting the enemy and do not enjoy the same protections you and I do.&#8221;</p>
<p>	yes, they do. They absolutely must.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Are you trying to tell us that citizens that have been on the recieving end of a wiretap are innocent citizens by virtue of their “citizenship”?</p>
<p>	no. I&#8217;m saying you are not stripped of your constitutional rights because somebody somewhere suspects you of something. We aren&#8217;t talking about convictions here. Warrantless wiretaps are not even admissible in court, so convictions for treason or whatever would be impossible. Even a bad lawyer would have them walking out the door scot free.</p>
<p>	I&#8217;m talking about the CIA or whoever being the final authority over whether or not YOU are a citizen with constititonal protections.</p>
<p>	If  you are a legal citizen of this country, all the legal rights and protections apply. It doesn&#8217;t matter a damn where your parents came from or even where you were born. If those things can be stripped from the bad guys they can just as easily be stripped from you and me.</p>
<p>	Your constitutional rights and protections as a citizen of the US should not be something you pitch out the window lightly. If you don&#8217;t want rights, there are lots of countries out there where you can live without them. *I* want to keep them!</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; House to Hold Inquiry on NSA Surveillance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; House to Hold Inquiry on NSA Surveillance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is pure propaganda from the ACLU. Congress has realized the absolute necessity of the program designed to listen in on conversations where one end is a suspected Al Qaeda operative. The ACLU rebuking the program is a clear admission that they have no regard for the safety of America, and want to completely eliminate the program. As I pointed out earlier this week, this is the goal of the ACLU as stated in their policy #117.  Limit the CIA, under the new name of the Foreign Intelligence Agency, to collecting and evaluatiing foreign intelligence information. Abolish all covert operations. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is pure propaganda from the ACLU. Congress has realized the absolute necessity of the program designed to listen in on conversations where one end is a suspected Al Qaeda operative. The ACLU rebuking the program is a clear admission that they have no regard for the safety of America, and want to completely eliminate the program. As I pointed out earlier this week, this is the goal of the ACLU as stated in their policy #117.  Limit the CIA, under the new name of the Foreign Intelligence Agency, to collecting and evaluatiing foreign intelligence information. Abolish all covert operations. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47134</link>
		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m pretty sure they had the enemy in mind, not US citizens.&quot;

	I am getting real tired of hearing this crap!

	How hard is it for you to comprehend that &quot;U.S. citizens&quot; as pertains to this, is Al Queda who have acquired citizenship for constitutional protections and are in this country to do it harm?

	&quot;U.S. citizen&quot; as refered to here is someone with citizenship, aiding and abetting the enemy and do not enjoy the same protections you and I do.

	Are you trying to tell us that  citizens that have been on the recieving end of a wiretap are innocent citizens by virtue of their &quot;citizenship&quot;?

	You are ignorant or you are spinning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m pretty sure they had the enemy in mind, not US citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>	I am getting real tired of hearing this crap!</p>
<p>	How hard is it for you to comprehend that &#8220;U.S. citizens&#8221; as pertains to this, is Al Queda who have acquired citizenship for constitutional protections and are in this country to do it harm?</p>
<p>	&#8220;U.S. citizen&#8221; as refered to here is someone with citizenship, aiding and abetting the enemy and do not enjoy the same protections you and I do.</p>
<p>	Are you trying to tell us that  citizens that have been on the recieving end of a wiretap are innocent citizens by virtue of their &#8220;citizenship&#8221;?</p>
<p>	You are ignorant or you are spinning.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG DOG's WEBLOG</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG DOG's WEBLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;ACLU Destined To Destry America&lt;/strong&gt;
	This is from Jay at Stop the ACLU.
	We have two recent press releases from the ACLU.
	1. Gut National Security!  We all know about the ACLU&#38;#8217;s lawsuit against NSA, its FOIA request over it, and its constant urging of Congress for full disclosure of ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>ACLU Destined To Destry America</strong><br />
	This is from Jay at Stop the ACLU.<br />
	We have two recent press releases from the ACLU.<br />
	1. Gut National Security!  We all know about the ACLU&#38;#38;#8217;s lawsuit against NSA, its FOIA request over it, and its constant urging of Congress for full disclosure of &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Star Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/16/aclu-renews-hatred-for-america/comment-page-1/#comment-47132</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Star Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The ACLU vs National Security&lt;/strong&gt;
	The ACLU, in every position it takes in National Security issues, proves time and again to be against American interests. When you combine all of these things, is there any wonder why so many Americans question who&#039;s side the ACLU is on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The ACLU vs National Security</strong><br />
	The ACLU, in every position it takes in National Security issues, proves time and again to be against American interests. When you combine all of these things, is there any wonder why so many Americans question who&#8217;s side the ACLU is on?</p>
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		<title>By: gopchristian</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopchristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 22:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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