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	<title>Comments on: Coretta Scott King Funeral Turns Into Bush Bash</title>
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		<title>By: Dethanial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dethanial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find plenty of stupidty on the leftist blogs when I waste my time reading some of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find plenty of stupidty on the leftist blogs when I waste my time reading some of them</p>
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		<title>By: Brian/Buddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian/Buddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 02:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pssst The Dems aren&#039;t using it as any Bush-bashing tool. King was a life-long activist and her politics are obviously going to be mentioned at her funeral. SHe opposed Bush until she passed.

	The Dems did no such thing as hijacking her funeral, ok? They discussed her life-long activism, fighting for gay rights decades ago and other things.

	Maybe you&#039;re mad at the truth stated by Lowery, that no WMD&quot;s have been found. Sorry but bugger off until you can fix the deficit, the poverty in this nation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pssst The Dems aren&#8217;t using it as any Bush-bashing tool. King was a life-long activist and her politics are obviously going to be mentioned at her funeral. SHe opposed Bush until she passed.</p>
<p>	The Dems did no such thing as hijacking her funeral, ok? They discussed her life-long activism, fighting for gay rights decades ago and other things.</p>
<p>	Maybe you&#8217;re mad at the truth stated by Lowery, that no WMD&#8221;s have been found. Sorry but bugger off until you can fix the deficit, the poverty in this nation</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
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		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 06:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;OK, lobo, the research I found was that Phelps and his father were both Democrats.&quot;

	They are not dead, they are still Democrats.
	Odd for someone who claims to have thrown off &#039;party labels&#039;, to try everything they can to distance themselves from what any reasonable person would agree, is an embarrassing affiliation IF they were &#039;fringe left&#039;.

	&quot;Using your logic, if having your picture taken with Phelps makes you a right wing homophobe,&quot;

	The photo was an onsite photo and was part of the excerpts of two articles I posted. If I had felt it were central to the post, I would have included it.


	&quot;As for the rest, I call ‘em like I see ‘em. Chickenhawk. Poser. &lt;b&gt;Pretender to combat status.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

	Where did you see Dethaniel claim combat status?

	Rather, you assume he is not a World War or Korean vet.

	All I see is someone who attacks a fellow vet who chooses to remain unassuming and who stated his opinion and the truth.

	&quot;The truth is, I’ve lived more lives than you and Dethaniel
	combined,&quot;

	Maybe that is where I got the &#039;schizophrenic&#039;.

	&quot;...take a look at what’s happening in the world. Then we can talk.&quot;

	Trust me, you don&#039;t need me for validation!

	&quot;Nice diagnosis, by the way. When did you get your psych degree?&quot;

	;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;OK, lobo, the research I found was that Phelps and his father were both Democrats.&#8221;</p>
<p>	They are not dead, they are still Democrats.<br />
	Odd for someone who claims to have thrown off &#8216;party labels&#8217;, to try everything they can to distance themselves from what any reasonable person would agree, is an embarrassing affiliation IF they were &#8216;fringe left&#8217;.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Using your logic, if having your picture taken with Phelps makes you a right wing homophobe,&#8221;</p>
<p>	The photo was an onsite photo and was part of the excerpts of two articles I posted. If I had felt it were central to the post, I would have included it.</p>
<p>	&#8220;As for the rest, I call ‘em like I see ‘em. Chickenhawk. Poser. <b>Pretender to combat status.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>	Where did you see Dethaniel claim combat status?</p>
<p>	Rather, you assume he is not a World War or Korean vet.</p>
<p>	All I see is someone who attacks a fellow vet who chooses to remain unassuming and who stated his opinion and the truth.</p>
<p>	&#8220;The truth is, I’ve lived more lives than you and Dethaniel<br />
	combined,&#8221;</p>
<p>	Maybe that is where I got the &#8217;schizophrenic&#8217;.</p>
<p>	&#8220;&#8230;take a look at what’s happening in the world. Then we can talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Trust me, you don&#8217;t need me for validation!</p>
<p>	&#8220;Nice diagnosis, by the way. When did you get your psych degree?&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.stoptheaclu.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Terrenoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Terrenoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, lobo, the research I found was that Phelps and his father were both Democrats.  Finding an old Democrat in the south is really tough.  I found that Gore&#039;s campaign met with and probably used Phelps&#039; offices in his campaign.  Again, not big news.  I didn&#039;t mention much about this because, as I pointed out, it&#039;s about as relevant as Carter&#039;s photo with Gacy and Rumsfeld&#039;s photo with Hussein.  Using your logic, if having your picture taken with Phelps makes you a right wing homophobe, then that means Rumsfeld is a murderous dictator.  So there you are.  But I made the mistake of assuming you actually used logic.  My bad.

	As for the rest, I call &#039;em like I see &#039;em.  Chickenhawk.  Poser.  Pretender to combat status.  Being called sonny by this guy who coudn&#039;t pack my chute did get under my skin, I admit.

	The truth is, I&#039;ve lived more lives than you and Dethaniel combined, and its all easy for you to verify, you&#039;re so good at research.  I&#039;m welcomed in the homes of true patriots, those who have spent their lives serving this country at the highest levels of responsibility.  People seek me out for my knowledge of intelligence work, weapons systems, criminal investigation, military history and writing.

	My biggest mistake was thinking either of you had anything to offer besides partisan BS.  Honestly, lobo, get your head out of your (expletive deleted) and really take a look at what&#039;s happening in the world.  Then we can talk.  But as long as you leap on things like this Al Gore/Fred Phelps photo as proof of anything except proving the old adage that politics makes strange bedfellows, well, you&#039;re certainly more desperate for some political validation than even this old narcissist.

	Nice diagnosis, by the way.  When did you get your psych degree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, lobo, the research I found was that Phelps and his father were both Democrats.  Finding an old Democrat in the south is really tough.  I found that Gore&#8217;s campaign met with and probably used Phelps&#8217; offices in his campaign.  Again, not big news.  I didn&#8217;t mention much about this because, as I pointed out, it&#8217;s about as relevant as Carter&#8217;s photo with Gacy and Rumsfeld&#8217;s photo with Hussein.  Using your logic, if having your picture taken with Phelps makes you a right wing homophobe, then that means Rumsfeld is a murderous dictator.  So there you are.  But I made the mistake of assuming you actually used logic.  My bad.</p>
<p>	As for the rest, I call &#8216;em like I see &#8216;em.  Chickenhawk.  Poser.  Pretender to combat status.  Being called sonny by this guy who coudn&#8217;t pack my chute did get under my skin, I admit.</p>
<p>	The truth is, I&#8217;ve lived more lives than you and Dethaniel combined, and its all easy for you to verify, you&#8217;re so good at research.  I&#8217;m welcomed in the homes of true patriots, those who have spent their lives serving this country at the highest levels of responsibility.  People seek me out for my knowledge of intelligence work, weapons systems, criminal investigation, military history and writing.</p>
<p>	My biggest mistake was thinking either of you had anything to offer besides partisan BS.  Honestly, lobo, get your head out of your (expletive deleted) and really take a look at what&#8217;s happening in the world.  Then we can talk.  But as long as you leap on things like this Al Gore/Fred Phelps photo as proof of anything except proving the old adage that politics makes strange bedfellows, well, you&#8217;re certainly more desperate for some political validation than even this old narcissist.</p>
<p>	Nice diagnosis, by the way.  When did you get your psych degree?</p>
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		<title>By: loboinok</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/07/coretta-scott-king-funeral-turns-into-bush-bash/comment-page-2/#comment-46331</link>
		<dc:creator>loboinok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, lobo and Dethaniel, you still think I’m some liberal rube you can patronize?&quot;

	I can&#039;t speak for Dethaniel, but I think you are narcissistic and schizophrenic.

	&quot;Have you ever served a [edited] day in uniform you slug? And I’m not talking about a Burger King paper hat.&quot;

	&quot;[edited] chickenhawk.&quot;

	&quot;And for a veteran, you have an unhealthy tendency to underestimate your opponent.&quot;

	Try taking your own advice!

	&quot;Go dry yourself behind your ears? Sonny?&quot;

	That one really stuck in your craw didn&#039;t it? Kept bringing you back time and again and practically turned you into a &#039;stalker&#039;.

	&quot;someone you can condescend to, someone wet behind the ears, and someone you can call sonny with impunity.&quot; (yup, ticked you off pretty good)

	&quot;...locked into this Democrat/Republican crap.&quot;

	&quot;I respectfully suggest you shake off these party labels&quot;

	Again, I&#039;ll suggest you take your own advice.


	&quot;I did my research on Phelps, lobo. It may surprise you how much research I do. I’m a writer and I spend at least half my day up to my knees in history.&quot;

	Since you can&#039;t dazzle me with brilliance, try to baffle me with BS and tell us what your research revealed concerning Phelps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, lobo and Dethaniel, you still think I’m some liberal rube you can patronize?&#8221;</p>
<p>	I can&#8217;t speak for Dethaniel, but I think you are narcissistic and schizophrenic.</p>
<p>	&#8220;Have you ever served a [edited] day in uniform you slug? And I’m not talking about a Burger King paper hat.&#8221;</p>
<p>	&#8220;[edited] chickenhawk.&#8221;</p>
<p>	&#8220;And for a veteran, you have an unhealthy tendency to underestimate your opponent.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Try taking your own advice!</p>
<p>	&#8220;Go dry yourself behind your ears? Sonny?&#8221;</p>
<p>	That one really stuck in your craw didn&#8217;t it? Kept bringing you back time and again and practically turned you into a &#8217;stalker&#8217;.</p>
<p>	&#8220;someone you can condescend to, someone wet behind the ears, and someone you can call sonny with impunity.&#8221; (yup, ticked you off pretty good)</p>
<p>	&#8220;&#8230;locked into this Democrat/Republican crap.&#8221;</p>
<p>	&#8220;I respectfully suggest you shake off these party labels&#8221;</p>
<p>	Again, I&#8217;ll suggest you take your own advice.</p>
<p>	&#8220;I did my research on Phelps, lobo. It may surprise you how much research I do. I’m a writer and I spend at least half my day up to my knees in history.&#8221;</p>
<p>	Since you can&#8217;t dazzle me with brilliance, try to baffle me with BS and tell us what your research revealed concerning Phelps.</p>
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		<title>By: David Terrenoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Terrenoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dethaniel,

	Why don&#039;t you get some more life experience and dry yourself behind the ears, sonny, and then come back and tell more about what a democrat you were.

	Really, all I wanted was another chance to laugh at your illiterate post.  We don&#039;t get that level of stupidity on the lefty blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dethaniel,</p>
<p>	Why don&#8217;t you get some more life experience and dry yourself behind the ears, sonny, and then come back and tell more about what a democrat you were.</p>
<p>	Really, all I wanted was another chance to laugh at your illiterate post.  We don&#8217;t get that level of stupidity on the lefty blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dethanial</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/07/coretta-scott-king-funeral-turns-into-bush-bash/comment-page-2/#comment-46343</link>
		<dc:creator>Dethanial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 03:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never would I hide from you that supports scumbags like Clinton and Carter, I would like to tell you like it is but Jay would delete the comments because it takes profanity to describe anyone who would use anyone funeral for a purpose other than honoring that person regardless if they were white, black, yellow, red, jews, muslim, buddist or what ever.  So if you dont like the subjects that Jay posts in here you dont have to read them as I dont read blogs that are immoral left wingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never would I hide from you that supports scumbags like Clinton and Carter, I would like to tell you like it is but Jay would delete the comments because it takes profanity to describe anyone who would use anyone funeral for a purpose other than honoring that person regardless if they were white, black, yellow, red, jews, muslim, buddist or what ever.  So if you dont like the subjects that Jay posts in here you dont have to read them as I dont read blogs that are immoral left wingers.</p>
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		<title>By: David Terrenoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Terrenoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cowards and chickenhawks.

	I expected you all to be stupid, but you surpassed even my low expectations.

	But I didn&#039;t expect you to run and hide.  Given your Dear Leader&#039;s behavior on 9/11, I shouldn&#039;t be surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowards and chickenhawks.</p>
<p>	I expected you all to be stupid, but you surpassed even my low expectations.</p>
<p>	But I didn&#8217;t expect you to run and hide.  Given your Dear Leader&#8217;s behavior on 9/11, I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: David Terrenoire</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/02/07/coretta-scott-king-funeral-turns-into-bush-bash/comment-page-2/#comment-46395</link>
		<dc:creator>David Terrenoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s not enough of my CV for you Dethaniel, let me know and I&#039;ll tell you about places in Washington that civilians never get to see.

	Oh, that&#039;s right, you&#039;re not a civilian.  You&#039;re a veteran old enough to think that whoever you meet on the blog is someone you can condescend to, someone wet behind the ears, and someone you can call sonny with impunity.

	After I&#039;ve instructed you in military history of the past 50 years, if you&#039;re still interested in being schooled we can talk about WWII, WWI (another of my special interests), or the Civil War.  I&#039;m no expert, but as my great-great-grandfather was the color bearer for the 42nd Georgia Infantry, I&#039;ve studied more about the Army of the Tennessee than I have the Army of Northern Virginia. Life is short and there&#039;s just so much to read.

	So, lobo and Dethaniel, you still think I&#039;m some liberal rube you can patronize?  If you do, you&#039;re bigger fools than I thought.

	But before I go, if you were in the Army Dethaniel, those various stations I mentioned should tell you volumes about my military career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s not enough of my CV for you Dethaniel, let me know and I&#8217;ll tell you about places in Washington that civilians never get to see.</p>
<p>	Oh, that&#8217;s right, you&#8217;re not a civilian.  You&#8217;re a veteran old enough to think that whoever you meet on the blog is someone you can condescend to, someone wet behind the ears, and someone you can call sonny with impunity.</p>
<p>	After I&#8217;ve instructed you in military history of the past 50 years, if you&#8217;re still interested in being schooled we can talk about WWII, WWI (another of my special interests), or the Civil War.  I&#8217;m no expert, but as my great-great-grandfather was the color bearer for the 42nd Georgia Infantry, I&#8217;ve studied more about the Army of the Tennessee than I have the Army of Northern Virginia. Life is short and there&#8217;s just so much to read.</p>
<p>	So, lobo and Dethaniel, you still think I&#8217;m some liberal rube you can patronize?  If you do, you&#8217;re bigger fools than I thought.</p>
<p>	But before I go, if you were in the Army Dethaniel, those various stations I mentioned should tell you volumes about my military career.</p>
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		<title>By: David Terrenoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Terrenoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you answer, Dethaniel, there are some things you won&#039;t find in my public record, but unlike lobo, I don&#039;t mind helping a fellow veteran out with a little research.

	Here are some facts you won&#039;t find by Googling me:
	I worked closely with the former head of the FBI Behavioral Science Unit, what you know as profilers, on a book about serial murder.

	A Lt. Col. I won&#039;t name took me to the Quantico Range a few years ago where we fired MAC 10&#039;s, Uzis, and my favorite, the H&#38;#38;K MP5.  This was along with my own GI 1911, a CZ 9mm, a Walther .32, my S&#38;#38;W 686, and a couple of .22s, including the famed choice of CIA hitmen everywhere, the Woodsman.  If you don&#039;t believe me, check with the Filipino range master.  I&#039;ve forgotten his name, but he&#039;d remember me, if for no other reason than the guy I was with.  I don&#039;t shoot much any more, but I still know how.

	I&#039;ve also, as I said elsewhere, interviewed special ops guys after the run-up to Baghdad including one guy currently on his third tour, this time with the Stryker Brigade.  Unfortunately, I wasn&#039;t the first writer to interview him.  Tom Clancy&#039;s men beat me to it.

	Last fall I was on a panel with two former CIA analysts and a still active member of the FBI&#039;s HRT.  We spoke on espionage.  My focus was MI.  I also spoke at the same conference about private investigation, law enforcement, and private security corporations.

	I studied and served at Fort Bragg, Fort Huachuca, Fort Gulick in the CZ and a few other places I&#039;d prefer not to mention because, by law, we were not allowed in those particular FOAs.

	So, I&#039;d say that place behind my ears dried sometime before my ETS in 12/71.  Just a guess.

	That&#039;s just to give you the sitrep.  I can fill in more details if you doubt my word.

	You obviously didn&#039;t do any intel on me before your last post, not smart for a combat vet, so I thought I&#039;d bring you up to speed.

	I&#039;d have checked you out, but you seem more comfortable hiding behind a &lt;i&gt;nom de blog&lt;/i&gt;.  That&#039;s certainly your perogative, but it&#039;s not how operate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you answer, Dethaniel, there are some things you won&#8217;t find in my public record, but unlike lobo, I don&#8217;t mind helping a fellow veteran out with a little research.</p>
<p>	Here are some facts you won&#8217;t find by Googling me:<br />
	I worked closely with the former head of the FBI Behavioral Science Unit, what you know as profilers, on a book about serial murder.</p>
<p>	A Lt. Col. I won&#8217;t name took me to the Quantico Range a few years ago where we fired MAC 10&#8217;s, Uzis, and my favorite, the H&#38;#38;#38;K MP5.  This was along with my own GI 1911, a CZ 9mm, a Walther .32, my S&#38;#38;#38;W 686, and a couple of .22s, including the famed choice of CIA hitmen everywhere, the Woodsman.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, check with the Filipino range master.  I&#8217;ve forgotten his name, but he&#8217;d remember me, if for no other reason than the guy I was with.  I don&#8217;t shoot much any more, but I still know how.</p>
<p>	I&#8217;ve also, as I said elsewhere, interviewed special ops guys after the run-up to Baghdad including one guy currently on his third tour, this time with the Stryker Brigade.  Unfortunately, I wasn&#8217;t the first writer to interview him.  Tom Clancy&#8217;s men beat me to it.</p>
<p>	Last fall I was on a panel with two former CIA analysts and a still active member of the FBI&#8217;s HRT.  We spoke on espionage.  My focus was MI.  I also spoke at the same conference about private investigation, law enforcement, and private security corporations.</p>
<p>	I studied and served at Fort Bragg, Fort Huachuca, Fort Gulick in the CZ and a few other places I&#8217;d prefer not to mention because, by law, we were not allowed in those particular FOAs.</p>
<p>	So, I&#8217;d say that place behind my ears dried sometime before my ETS in 12/71.  Just a guess.</p>
<p>	That&#8217;s just to give you the sitrep.  I can fill in more details if you doubt my word.</p>
<p>	You obviously didn&#8217;t do any intel on me before your last post, not smart for a combat vet, so I thought I&#8217;d bring you up to speed.</p>
<p>	I&#8217;d have checked you out, but you seem more comfortable hiding behind a <i>nom de blog</i>.  That&#8217;s certainly your perogative, but it&#8217;s not how operate.</p>
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