Comments on: Essential Liberties http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/ Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:24:34 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: The Disenfranchised Voter http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45313 The Disenfranchised Voter Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:11:24 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45313 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, <b>and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.</b> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

]]> By: Jay http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45312 Jay Fri, 27 Jan 2006 02:44:29 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45312 You mean the amendment that mentions illegal search and seizure without reasonable cause? Because I don't think you will find any mention of a right to privacy in there. You mean the amendment that mentions illegal search and seizure without reasonable cause? Because I don’t think you will find any mention of a right to privacy in there.

]]> By: The Disenfranchised Voter http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45311 The Disenfranchised Voter Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:19:53 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45311 The full quote still applies to this situation. I don't know about you guys, but I consider the 4th Amendment to the Bill of Rights to be an "essential liberty" and I also think the NSA warrantess wiretapping qualifies as providing temporary safety. Then again, I actually care about the Constitution. Maybe that is my problem? The full quote still applies to this situation.

I don’t know about you guys, but I consider the 4th Amendment to the Bill of Rights to be an “essential liberty” and I also think the NSA warrantess wiretapping qualifies as providing temporary safety.

Then again, I actually care about the Constitution. Maybe that is my problem?

]]> By: Hammer of Truth http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45310 Hammer of Truth Fri, 27 Jan 2006 01:05:03 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45310 <strong>NSA on 4th Amend: Probable Lapse of Memory</strong> This video of Gen. Hayden (a high-ranking military dude who vowed to uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights, speaking for the NSA) botching the fourth amendment is crazy delicious orwellian. From the Keith Olbermann Countdown transcript: UNIDENTI... NSA on 4th Amend: Probable Lapse of Memory
This video of Gen. Hayden (a high-ranking military dude who vowed to uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights, speaking for the NSA) botching the fourth amendment is crazy delicious orwellian. From the Keith Olbermann Countdown transcript:
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]]> By: Hammer of Truth &#38;#187; NSA on 4th Amendment: Probable Lapse of Memory http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45309 Hammer of Truth &#38;#187; NSA on 4th Amendment: Probable Lapse of Memory Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:58:04 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45309 [...] And conservatives are kicking on the Georgetown demostrators for getting a Ben Franklin quote a little wrong? [...] [...] And conservatives are kicking on the Georgetown demostrators for getting a Ben Franklin quote a little wrong? [...]

]]> By: Alvis http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45308 Alvis Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:59:35 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45308 "A quicker way to get a point across would be to actually point out the civil liberties being violated as the challenge stated." That would require access to classified information. That's why it's a lazy argument on Michelle's part. If civil liberties have been violated, it will hopefully come out during the course of the investigation. Or you can take Bush's word for it if you're comfortable with that. “A quicker way to get a point across would be to actually point out the civil liberties being violated as the challenge stated.”

That would require access to classified information. That’s why it’s a lazy argument on Michelle’s part. If civil liberties have been violated, it will hopefully come out during the course of the investigation. Or you can take Bush’s word for it if you’re comfortable with that.

]]> By: Right Wing Nation &#38;#187; From StopTheACLU http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45307 Right Wing Nation &#38;#187; From StopTheACLU Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:30:20 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45307 [...] A balanced society can not survive resting in the fringe. A Nation only concerned with security will drift toward a police state, and one that follows the absolutist views of liberty like the ACLU will drift toward anarchy. The ACLU proudly display a banner that states, Keep America Safe and Free, but any honest person will admit that the ACLU have done nothing for the safety of America. As a matter of fact, all evidence leads to quite the opposite. The ACLU are always ready to put the security of America at risk in the pursuit of its absolutist views of liberty. [...] [...] A balanced society can not survive resting in the fringe. A Nation only concerned with security will drift toward a police state, and one that follows the absolutist views of liberty like the ACLU will drift toward anarchy. The ACLU proudly display a banner that states, Keep America Safe and Free, but any honest person will admit that the ACLU have done nothing for the safety of America. As a matter of fact, all evidence leads to quite the opposite. The ACLU are always ready to put the security of America at risk in the pursuit of its absolutist views of liberty. [...]

]]> By: ReidBlog http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45306 ReidBlog Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:37:41 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45306 <strong>The Ben Franklin (Mis)reader</strong> Michelle Malkin labors mightily to prove the intellectual superiority of the pro-COINTELPRO right. Let's see how she does... The Ben Franklin (Mis)reader
Michelle Malkin labors mightily to prove the intellectual superiority of the pro-COINTELPRO right. Let’s see how she does…

]]> By: apostle http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45305 apostle Thu, 26 Jan 2006 05:58:02 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45305 "Lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy argument" A quicker way to get a point across would be to actually point out the civil liberties being violated as the challenge stated. “Lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy argument”

A quicker way to get a point across would be to actually point out the civil liberties being violated as the challenge stated.

]]> By: Mike http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/comment-page-1/#comment-45304 Mike Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:49:01 +0000 http://stoptheaclu.dreamhosters.com/archives/2006/01/25/essential-liberties/#comment-45304 I wonder what the left would say if the NRA, or another group of concerned gun owners held up a similar banner the next time Feinstein, Kerry, and Kennedy brought more useless gun legislation to the floor? I wonder what the left would say if the NRA, or another group of concerned gun owners held up a similar banner the next time Feinstein, Kerry, and Kennedy brought more useless gun legislation to the floor?

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