Two Things That Are Really Bugging Me

24 Responses to “Two Things That Are Really Bugging Me”

1. M. Sheldon on January 4th, 2006 2:27 am

   Wow.
   For anyone who doesn’t know…
   Kender=Balls.

2. kender on January 4th, 2006 2:50 am

   M. Sheldon? That goes straight into my “quotes to be posted” file. Thanks.

3. Where's my Haldol? on January 4th, 2006 3:40 am

   I agree with M. Sheldon’s “wow,” but for different reasons.

   Mr. Kender, are you so thoroughly bereft of thought that you believe that Judge Hamilton’s decision is rooted in non-Christians’ simple, visceral distaste for the word JESUS? For you, the issue is no more politically complex than that? Evidently so. Based on your tortured style of expression, this is not surprising. (By the way, it’s “Israel,” not “Isreal” — the left doesn’t hate the nation, but might take issue with your persistent misspellings. Besides, don’t you know that most American Jews vote Democrat?)

   I’m one of those America-hatin’ godless folks who is always pleased when sectarian tenets are not given special dispensation in the public sphere. Yet I say “JESUS” all the time. As in [edited], JUST HOW DUMB *IS* THIS RIGHT-WING HILLBILLY?” So I guess you struck out on that one. Read up; there are historical precedents underscoring the need to prevent any one religious group from gaining an inside governmental track, and you know damned well — or ought to — that any one of them will take a mile if given a millimeter.

   In a further display of your perilously shallow intellect, you equate schoolkids’ Muslim role-playing with terrorist training (as if all Muslims are Jihadists) and believe that opposition to the Orwellian version of the Patriot Act is tantamount to a desire to be attacked and allegiance to Islamofascists. These beliefs seal the deal: You are an illiterate, uninformed moron armed only with passion and a keyboard. Well, I support your right to be a hapless dullard, so I expect you’ll support my right to point it out here. Cheers!

   ” I expect you’ll support my right to point it out here.”

   I won’t speak for Kender, but I’ll support your desire to point it out here… provided, you do it without the profanity! Lobo

4. kender on January 4th, 2006 5:51 am

   Wow….Lobo has been in here editing the moonbats profanity, judging by the comments that DIDN’T make it past my inbox.

   tsktsk kids…..(oh will? Don’t call me “son”, lest I be called upon to treat you to a right proper thrashing, southern gentlemen’s style)…haldol? Go take some.

   Invoking the name of Jesus does NOT make this a theocracy. (for future notice, DON’T call me “MR.”)

   Now the factthat your first attempt at a serious point was to take to task a transposition of letters in a word that was typed quickly by a man that is, admittingly, bad at typing shows the depth of your cognitive abilities and the lengths of which you are willing to go to in trying to wrap your tiiiiiny little brain around the FACTS of the situation at hand.

   Now, as for “schoolkids’ Muslim role-playing”, I can assure you it was no such thing. It was a public school teaching a class and part of that class was learning about muslims. Not just reading about them, but living AS a muslim, taking a muslim name, wearing muslim clothes and reciting muslim PRAYERS.

   Try that with Christian in place of muslim and see how fast the ACLU jumps up and screams.

   Honestly, it is a lack of understanding in people such as yourself that is just as large of a danger to this country as any jihadist, and IF you are lucky, people such as those that fight against the ACLU’s encroachment upon our AMERICAN CULTURE will be the ones victorious, and not a group of religious extremists, such as islmac extremists or even far right christian extremists.

   I am not sure I would lift a hand to save your sorry hide in either case, anyhow.

   Good day.

5. Ogre on January 4th, 2006 7:01 am

   “Lack of understanding?” Kender, I think you’re giving this maroon much more credit than they deserve. It’s not an inability to understand, it’s a willing desire to not see truth — an utter and complete hatred for good, light, and truth.

6. MrWonderful on January 4th, 2006 8:02 am

   What the he$$ is it with Liberals, are they all brain dead?? Maybe they are just the dumbest morons on the planet. None the less they are runing lives and making it miserable for people with an ounce of common sense and morals. Its quite clear why Kender has an issue with Judge Hamilton, the judge is an A-Hole of the N’th degree. There are only two possible reasons for him to rule as he did. 1.) He is anti-religion specifically Christianity, or 2.) He is ignorant of the law. So pick one moonbat. Further, just because you procalim to say Jesus doesn’t change [edited], and it certainly doesn’t make you pro-religion. Its not showing favoratisim if Christians or people of any other religion wishe to celebrate publically their religious culture, even if that happens on public property. After all, we all own that property and have a right to do with it as we please. As far as dullards go, you score high there Haldol. Maybe a more accurate name would be HalDull or HowDull. Its obvious you cannot comprehend the written word which in this case was quite clear and understandable. Your ignorance is futher exposed by your obvious inability to fully comprehend the Constitution and its true meaning. This unfortunately is true with many judiciary in the past who have created these precident you Liberal dolts so love to embrace. Just because a precident is made at law, does in no way make it right. Recall that decades ago there were many legal precident supporting the enslaving of people, their lynching and beatings as a prime example just to name one. What happened with precident there big mouth? You try to talk big with your islamofacist words and criticizims of meaninless things like mispellings when in fact you offer nonthing outside of the same old Liberal idiocy. The only thing you uttered at all that comes close to being true is that if any one religious group were to gain an inside track in Government that they would take a mile if given a millimeter. Yup, just exactly like the Athiests have done, which is WRONG. What you moonbat idiots do not understand is that if the Constitution were followed as it were originally intended to be interpreted and followed, everyones right would be upheld, both pro-any religion and anti-any religion. But thats not how you have it twisted. Its now only the rights of the Athiest are upheld while the rights of the pro-religious are violated, particularly Christians because they exist in greater numbers. So the message to you Liberal moonbat jerks is to stop violating our God given rights under the Constitution, stop corrupting the meaning of the Constitution, stop ruining this country with your inane idiocy and ranting about civil rights, and reasoning that makes no sense. Above all if you do not like something that someone else has a Constitutional right to do, then exercise your Constitutional right to live with it and shut the F up. Now… What part of that do you not understand???

7. Where's my Haldol? on January 4th, 2006 8:02 am

   The “profanity” I used was the phrase “JESUS CHRIST.” Anyone else smell the irony meters burning?

   You know, despite Kender giving himself credit for offering us “humor” with his post, I really think you people believe that you’re right. You’re not just posturing for effect or posting without at least briefly considering these issues; you think people like me are more dangerous to America than religious kooks of all stripes(read about any secular Jihads lately? I haven’t) and that we hate “good.” You think we want to lower our own standard of living (what this has to do with your other rumblings I’m not sure). You’re actually convinced that the following are true:

   * The Establishment Clause as applied consistently over the past several decades doesn’t — or shouldn’t — apply to Christians.

   What if people want to light menorahs at town council meetings? Or maybe sacrifice a fatted calf to Zeus before every major public proceeding?

   I knw what you’re thinking, although there’s some question as to whether you’ll go ahead and write it: “America is at heart a Christian nation.” Great; but your prayers don’t merit official sanction in the manner relevant to the Indiana case, unless, of course, you feel it’s fine to take steps toward politically ostracizing non-Christians.

   Clear yet on why the founders were so ardent about the ‘Clause in the first place? Surely, surely. Moving on:

   * Kender openly equates Muslims with terrorism.

   Sure, just about every far-out, suicide-slime terrorist these days is a Muslim, but the converse isn’t true. Just about every undereducated, God-fearing bumpkin in the U.S. is a Christian, but does this make most Christians stupid? Not in my experience.

   Methinks it just chafes your hide that this silly little lesson in a California school was allowed to proceed in the first place.

   As for your comment about “Christian training,” get real; Christianity is so prevalent in the U.S. that this would be as superfluous as teaching kids to make PB&J sammiches. Besides, you may have heard of these newfangled institutions called Christian and Catholic schools, to which parents routinely ship their kids for the specific purpose of religious training (often with the aim of avoiding scientific truths, but that’s another matter). Public-school teachers realize these exist, so to persist with lessons about JESUS in their classrooms would be a waste of time. There’s no novelty there, and for that reason we might expect an outcry from some parents. Anyway, dealing in hypotheticals here.

   Finally, I never claimed that mention of JESUS was emblematic of a theocracy, but pound away at phantoms if you must.

   And Kender, don’t try the CYA regarding your spelling of Israel. Lots of people get it wrong, and the fact that you’re among them is manifestly the least of your problems.

   Bottom line? Dude, if you want to be funny, be *funny* while telling the truth. In other words, don’t be the butt of your own jokes.

8. Where's my Haldol? on January 4th, 2006 8:07 am

   I just noticed what Kender added to his post up top. I’m supposed to have a Web site in order to sound off here? That’s new. I’ve heard of registration, but that one’s tough. I added my site, and it’s a blog, but I haven’t opened comments.

   MrWonderful: Paragraphs, sir, paragraphs. I’m not sure your stuff would be intelligible anyway, and it would still resonate with a simian lack of comprehension, but it doesn’t matter — we may both be up for deletion anyway. Drat.

9. Jay on January 4th, 2006 8:09 am

   Equating a prayer with sacrificing an animal? C’mon! If the legislature wanted to open with a “prayer” to Zeus, or Satan, or whomever…I would have no problem. I’m sure many people would, but a prayer seems pretty harmless to me, I don’t know why it has so many secularist up in arms. Despite what you want to believe, the Establishment Clause DOES NOT over rule the freedom of expression clause.

10. kender on January 4th, 2006 8:20 am

    The way you used the words “Jesus Christ” was cussing, (taking the name in vain) and I stand by Lobo’s decision to edit it.

    On to your other points.

    “* The Establishment Clause as applied consistently over the past several decades doesn’t — or shouldn’t — apply to Christians.”

    The First Amendment has been misinterpreted. The ACLU pushes Atheism and Secular Humanism, (both closely related RELIGIONS) over mainstream Religions, especially Christianity, and will side with any religion doctrine, wish or practice over a Christian one every single time.

    “* Kender openly equates Muslims with terrorism.”
    Yes. I do. I absolutely equate Islam with Terrorism. True Islam calls for the adherents of this evil lie of a sham of spirituality to do EXACTLY what radical islamists have been doing all over the globe.

    ISLAM
    IS
    NOT
    A
    RELIGION
    OF
    PEACE

    Anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool or a muslim. I won’t be deleting those comments above….but I reserve the right to, as always.

    BTW….your writing, Haldol, in the first sentence, has a faint wispy hint of greatness along the lines of Douglas Adams, but quickly loses me…..but then I am tired and will step in and read it when sleep and Kona’s finest have resurrected me.

    Now go make a blog so I can blather on about your ramblings.

11. Jake Jacobsen on January 4th, 2006 8:34 am

    As for your comment about “Christian training,” get real; Christianity is so prevalent in the U.S. that this would be as superfluous as teaching kids to make PB&J sammiches.

    Surely you jest sir? Perhaps there was a time this was true, but people such as yourself who hve a visceral hatred of Christianity made this untrue years ago.

    Where’s my Haldol is like the fish who says “Water, what water?”

12. Carolyn Hileman on January 4th, 2006 9:00 am

    I just have one question, if we were to board airplanes and kill almost three thousand people in one day do you think that these people might bow down to us then?

13. Where's my Haldol? on January 4th, 2006 10:00 am

    I know that animal sacrifice is considerably more intrustive than prayer. I was just playing along with the purported “humor” theme.

    I’m no defender of the ACLU myself. But the prevailing view here that the Establishment Clause has been out-and-out corrupted is, I think, wrong for two reasons. One, if the SCOTUS consistently rules in a given way (the “liberal activist judges” I hear folks complaining about in recent years haven’t revamped a thing), then, well, that’s your Constitution. And two, there’s a reason why, in cases like this, judges are quick to rule as they do.

    Jay, if someone or even a room full of people want to pray before, during (as long as they don’t disrupt anything) or after a court proceeding, I’m sure few would care. But there’s a chasm between individuals praying on a voluntary basis and opening proceedings with *sectarian* prayers as a matter of course. The issue is goverment endorsement. Surely you can appreciate the difference even if you disagree with my overall thrust.

    Kender – I don’t believe for a moment that Islam is a “religion of peace” (though peaceful Muslims obviously exist). But the Koran compels little more in the way of evil toward non-adherents than does the Holy Bible; it’s just that Islamofascists are ruinously benighted enough to act on the instructions. Believe me, I am no sympathizer. I think most Middle Easterners are vermin, and that since all they know is pain, our only choice is to hurt them. (Side track!) However, I am certain that whatever the California schoolteachers leading this little charade had in mind were the peaceful aspects of Muslim existence. It’s not useful or accurate to paint all Muslims who have grown up as Americans as evil. That’s all.

    Jake, you misunderstood me. I wasn’t claiming that everyone loves Christians, only that everyone not living under a rock is familiar enough with the basics of Christianity to render “Xian dress-up day” or whatever pointless. By the way, nice work in crawling into my head and determining that I have a “visceral hatred” of anything. Jake Jacobsen, meet Mr. Stereotype and and Ms. Jump to Conclusions.

    Carolyn: Well, that was a change of pace.

14. M. Sheldon on January 4th, 2006 12:13 pm

    How DARE you, Kender equate islam with terrorism…
    /stupid amish jihadis.

15. Pappy on January 4th, 2006 12:30 pm

    Kender cannot equate islam with terrorism. Why is it that terrorists with the exception of McVey are muslims.

16. Where's my Haldol? on January 4th, 2006 12:46 pm

    One more time, people.

    Almost all terrorists are Muslims.

    But most Muslims are NOT terrorists!

    If this seems like a contradiction, think back to Venn diagrams in high school. Imagine a great big circle, A — this represents the Muslim population. Now consider a vastly smaller circle B, which is almost-but-not-quite enclosed within A. See? Simple.

    Better yet, try this: Virtually all track sprinters are black. But only a small fraction of blacks are track sprinters.

    This has real-world implications in that, while racial profiling in terrorist-hunting makes perfect sense, assuming that the next Muslim you meet on the street is a terrorist does not.

    Hope this helps.

17. Lug on January 4th, 2006 4:00 pm

    Liberal moonbats hasten their own demise!!!!! Incredible!!!

    “Yet while Islamism is the enemy, it’s not what this thing’s about. Radical Islam is an opportunistic infection, like AIDS: It’s not the HIV that kills you, it’s the pneumonia you get when your body’s too weak to fight it off. When the jihadists engage with the U.S. military, they lose–as they did in Afghanistan and Iraq. If this were like World War I with those fellows in one trench and us in ours facing them over some boggy piece of terrain, it would be over very quickly. Which the smarter Islamists have figured out. They know they can never win on the battlefield, but they figure there’s an excellent chance they can drag things out until Western civilization collapses in on itself and Islam inherits by default.”

    The real reason the West is in danger of extinction.

    BY MARK STEYN
    Wednesday, January 4, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760

    “Patriotism is stupid!”……Cindy Sheehan

18. loboinok on January 4th, 2006 7:15 pm

    “I’m supposed to have a Web site in order to sound off here? That’s new.”

    People are not going to believe a word you say BV, as long as you continue to lie through your teeth!

    You can change your name, your IP and your blog sites but you can not change the essence of garbage that pollutes your mind!

19. kender on January 4th, 2006 7:20 pm

    Hsldol, what you don’t seem to understand is that all terrorists are followers of True Islam, but not all muslims are.

    Ever notice that the majority of muslims that aren’t terrorists are also NOT saying mush about those that are?

    Those that truly follow Islam are doing what they are told to in their little book. And don’t try the old “the Bible says” meme, as that stuff that everyone likes to point to is in the Old testament, which nobody is following. When was the last time a Christian stoned a woman to death for Adultry? The Bible says to do it, but what Christian follows the OT?

    The Koran has no distinction. It is still the little black book of death to infidels.

20. John on January 4th, 2006 7:35 pm

    I’ll buy into this “religion of peace” crap when they as a people start denouncing the violence and admit that the USA, Israel, and non-muslims in general have a right to exist. It’s not the actions of the whole of the muslim world it’s the inaction. In your venn diagram you fail to note the smallest circle of all which is the muslims who speak out against terror.

21. apostle on January 4th, 2006 11:00 pm

    If public schools are going to teach, and be funded by taxpayers, than the schools, like the rest of the representative government organizations, should represent the majority. The majority of America is not Muslim.

    I also noticed someone trying to establish similarities between the Bible and the Koran. I already can guess what verses him/her have misinterpreted to apply, I’ll only say read the Bible in its entirety and any objective person can see the vast differences. Christianity is Jesus, and Jesus does not advocate Christian killing non-believers.

    Where’s my Haldol?: You can now show us in the establishment clause where the government is not allowed to endorse religion. Last time I checked it said ESTABLISH, which only means making religion into law. You can also tell me why those that wrote the establishment clause used government tax money to convert Indians to Christianity, established swearing oath on the Bible and in court, established the placement of Ten Commandments in every court house, established prayer in Jesus’ name before every Congressional meeting, and so on and so on. Interpreting the Constitution means basic reading comprehension and keeping it in the original context of which it was written.

22. Marion on January 7th, 2006 5:04 am

    Kender=Bozo

23. kender on January 7th, 2006 1:21 pm

    There once was a creature named Marion
    Who for meals would munch a large hairy one
    Then it would come troll
    and spew things oh so droll
    And deleted comments would not carry on

24. kender on January 8th, 2006 12:26 am

    It means you get deleted marion…..why are you leaving comments here anyway? You dont knwo who I am, remember?

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