Gee, let’s dump the Establishment Clause, then.

I believe it was Madison, who stated that government & religion would remain purer, the less they were mixed together (paraphrase).
The 1st amendment, BTW, specifically states no laws shall be made establishing or prohibiting religion.

The separation is implied, I believe.

Sorry to rain on people’s parades, but Barton is NOT someone to be listened to, or given credence.

Which is the main root of this pesky ‘myth of separation of church & state’ stems from.

“someone should wake Jefferson from the dead and tell him to pay back the thousands of tax-payer dollars he spent on converting Indians to Christianity.”
Where on earth did any of you get that fact? Got link?
This is how rumors get started.

“If you really want to even the playing field get the names of the offended athiests and vehicle description and plate number, where they live and work and submit the info to local police officers with a brief explanation of what the bozos are doing. Then tell the police officer to do a little dance on the bozos. The police officer will understand.”
That’s a wonderful concept. Did I just wake up in Berlin in 1941? I’m tempted to do a little ‘dance’ on you, my friend.

The crosses, to my limited knowledge, were paid for by the UCHP.
For the record, I could care less as well. There are more important issues to address.

I agree. What a sad waste. This is the sort of crap that would never fly today. As badly as Native Americans have been treated, force-feeding them Christian bullsh*t would be the ultimate form of dehumanizing torture.

Jefferson could not have known 230 years ago that religion would prove both increasingly destructive and increasingly passe. It used to be that religious folks could hide behind thunder, lightning, floods, and all sorts of then-unexplained phenomena when positing the existence of a Christian-style creator. Now, we know a hell of a lot about molecular genetics, the mechanisms underlying evolution, microbiology, atomic physics, geology, and more, which has made Christians fearful of — and irate at — science and scientists and forced them to hide behind groundless attacks on same. Soon enough they won’t even have these things as a shield. If we don’t blow ourselves up, in 1,000 years the entire civlized world will be rightly secular, but that’s a big “if.”

Dethanial, I find it hard to believe that you’ve ever cracked open a Webster’s. Since “athiest” is one of your favorite words, you and the other complainants here should learn to spell it.

I personally couldn’t care less whether the Utah memorials are crosses, giant pinwheels, or likenesses of Darth Vader. Given crosses’ historical record, however (Crusades, Inquisition), I disagree that they are ideal symbols of life. And face it — putting them on freeways discriminates against vampires.

This is Utah anyway. I’m surprised they don’t have huge statues of that idiot horse thief and Bible plagiarist Joe Smith wearing his giant magic sunglasses and mouthing the words from oversized platters unearthed in New York State.

if it was the islam symbol then i would think that all the christians would be offended. Thus because of hypocrisy and establishment of state religion it should not take on religious tones if the markers were publicly funded. If it was private then it’s freedom of speech and would be ok.