Report Of Lions Used To Interrogate Detainees
It seems that we have a couple more “I was abused” types being detained in Iraq. This pair have claimed that our guys arrested them for no reason then tortured them. Their claim is that our guys put them into a lion cage to force a confession out of them. They further claim that our guys used a mock execution to try and force a confession out of them. This is the gist of their claims.
Here is the absolute truth everyone. Now pay attention…
IF any of our guys are guilty of doing such things, the military will find out. Mistreatment of prisoners is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Criminal Investigation Division (CID) in the Army will investigate and find the truth. Mistreatment of prisoners is a violation of everything that we as a nation stand for.
That being said, I see nothing that can be construed as mistreatment. Unless the soldiers actually allowed the lions to feed on the detainee or committed a crime by conducting a summery execution, there is nothing there.
But I have a feeling that the detainees claiming this are fabricating their claim. They know that the bleeding hearts here in the United States will scream and cry about mistreatment. They know that the liberal leaning press in the United States will run story after story about this and inflame the radical Muslims in the Middle East. This is all part of the war being waged by our enemies. Vilify the United States is their number 1 priority. Show that we are the ultimate evil in the world.
We have conducted the same kind of counter war in our history. But the problem is that no one in the world but the United States and Great Britain cared. Our guys have been tortured by Germans, Japanese, N. Koreans, Chinese, Russians, Vietnamese, Somalis and Iraqis. And when we voiced our outrage about their treatment, nobody listened. Even here in the United States there were those during the Vietnam War who claimed that our guys deserved mistreatment for bombing the North Vietnamese.
Our guys were actually tortured and starved. We feed our detainees. We provide them with clean cells and materials for them to worship their god. We provide specially prepared religiously sensitive diets for them.
So if our guys use techniques such as sensory deprivation, interrogation by woman guards, dogs, or exploiting any non-violent fears of the detainee to extract information which will provide our troops and national leaders the opportunity to protect us better, I could care less.
Now the controversy of the CIA having secret camps where they interrogate using methods which are not known to the American people, So What? We have tasked them to get the information don’t criticize how they accomplish that task.
And you’ll never guess who’s representing these guys? Well of course, The ACLU are.
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Someone’s lion all right …
I wonder why there is not much said about the abuse that the Iraq people do to their own people or the abuse in Iran. . . .
Oh shucks I forgot abuse is only abuse if it is performed by the U.S.Military(I apoligize, I forgot)
Someone has on their web site a few days ago (I can not remember who’s) pictures where they were running over the arm of a 8 year old boy in Iran. CAIR told me that it was a fake picture. Did anyone get the news that it was fake elsewhere. It is not fake when it is about the US Military (dang I forgot again)
What’s wrong with threats? That’s the only truly effective way to glean information from scumbags. Indeed, the big problem I see with some screwball rule against torture is that it telegraphs to terrorists that whatever threat American soldiers make means nothing. Bring on the lions!
Of course it was said that the pictures of the father in Palastine that was trying to protect his boy who later got killed was real, but later it was found that is was fake. I had better quite thinking about this or I will post some more or CAIR will surely behead me.
Well, if you want to get realistic, I don’t know that we aren’t being harsh enough in our treatment. First of all, our treatment of enemy combatants is governed by the Geneva Convention. That being said, so far as I know, we have never fought an enemy that signed the convention articles. Secondly, the Geneva Convention only governs enemy combatants who by definition are in uniform, and are fighting on behalf of a nation. As far as I know those we are fighting and capturing are not part of a nation, and are definitely not in uniform. So I don’t see how the convention applies. Third, these detainees are nod being held on US soil, therefore, US criminal rights, and US constitutional rights do not apply to them. Frankly I think we need to start using lions, and if lions aren’t enough, dinosaurs, guns, fire, water, loud noises… if any thing can help save the life of even one innocent person, I’m all for it. Now realistically, torture, and physical pain does not work. if you put someone through enough pain, they will tell you who built the pyramids, that does not necessarily mean that they actually know. I do know that things like scopolomine and Sodium Penthanol do work very well. And we shouldn’t be afraid that someone with no idea about the dynamics of war, or the comprehension of how difficult it can be to extract information from a person that is conditioned not to talk; would try to whine and complain about “mistreatment and offending.” I’m sorry I was pretty damn offended when planes crashed into the WTC. And if you want to talk about mistreatment, how about public beheadings? Where is the outrage about Nick Bergs human rights? What about all those that have been murdered in the name of “the religion of peace?”
Lions? SOP calls for rabid badgers. Bad tradecraft, there.
Jay, take a look at this from the article you linked:
Sabbar, 37, and Sherzad Kamal Khalid, 35, are in the United States this week to talk about the lawsuit that the American Civil Liberties Union and Human Rights First filed on their behalf against Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other military officials.
The suit, which was filed in March and transferred to U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., details sexual abuse, mock executions, water and food deprivation, electric shock and other torture used on eight detainees, including Sabbar and Khalid. It does not mention the lion cage.
…it seems to me that if the lawsuit crafted by the ACLU doesn’t mention the lions, that even they couldn’t get past the snicker factor in the claim, which naturally invites more scrutiny of their other claims.
If your lawyers don’t believe you, why should the newspaper that printed the story?
http://legalxxx.blogspot.com/ has the story too
Were lions used of just lion cages. If they only used cages why did they not have the lions in them.
I made a mess of that last post. It should have been “Were lions used or just lion cages.