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	<title>Comments on: ACLU Vs. The Bucs</title>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU Sues San Franscio 49ers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU Sues San Franscio 49ers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It was only in October that the ACLU sued the Tampa Bay Bucs. I only have one question, are they going to sue each and everyone of the NFL teams individually for something the NFL mandated? Why not go after the NFL&#38;#8217;s policy? Are they hoping to get attorney&#38;#8217;s fees rewarded, wasting our tax dollars for each individual team? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It was only in October that the ACLU sued the Tampa Bay Bucs. I only have one question, are they going to sue each and everyone of the NFL teams individually for something the NFL mandated? Why not go after the NFL&#38;#38;#8217;s policy? Are they hoping to get attorney&#38;#38;#8217;s fees rewarded, wasting our tax dollars for each individual team? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU&#38;#38;#8217;s War Against National Security</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop The ACLU &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; ACLU&#38;#38;#8217;s War Against National Security</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ok, so the ACLU says no profiled searches, and no random searches. What about searches across the board? Nope. Raymond James Stadium tried it, and the ACLU sued. So, where does that leave us with searches? I think we can conclude that the ACLU are against all searches. Is this because they stand by the principle of the fourth amendment? The irony and hypocrisy here is that, the NYCLU HQ has a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. Apparantly their war against searches is not based on principle. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ok, so the ACLU says no profiled searches, and no random searches. What about searches across the board? Nope. Raymond James Stadium tried it, and the ACLU sued. So, where does that leave us with searches? I think we can conclude that the ACLU are against all searches. Is this because they stand by the principle of the fourth amendment? The irony and hypocrisy here is that, the NYCLU HQ has a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. Apparantly their war against searches is not based on principle. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 06:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The ACLU&#039;s War on National Security&lt;/strong&gt;
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU In conjunction with the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the ACLU has lobbied hard against Arab-profiling at airports for years. “Profiles are notoriously under-inclusive,” says ACLU legi...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The ACLU&#8217;s War on National Security</strong><br />
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU In conjunction with the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the ACLU has lobbied hard against Arab-profiling at airports for years. “Profiles are notoriously under-inclusive,” says ACLU legi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gribbit&#38;#38;#8217;s Word :: Ten Reasons to Stop The ACLU :: November :: 2005</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gribbit&#38;#38;#8217;s Word :: Ten Reasons to Stop The ACLU :: November :: 2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don&#38;#8217;t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don&#38;#38;#8217;t practice the principles they preach. Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters &#8211; which it shares with other organizations &#8211; and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom of Thought &#38;#38;#187; Stop the ACLU Blogburst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom of Thought &#38;#38;#187; Stop the ACLU Blogburst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 06:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don&#38;#8217;t practice the principles they preach.  Take a walk into the NYCLU&#38;#8217;s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you&#38;#8217;ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] #4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don&#38;#38;#8217;t practice the principles they preach.  Take a walk into the NYCLU&#38;#38;#8217;s Manhattan headquarters &#8211; which it shares with other organizations &#8211; and you&#38;#38;#8217;ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Top Ten List of Why the ACLU needs to be Stopped&lt;/strong&gt;
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU Stop The ACLU was started on February 9th, 2004. We started with high hopes, and we realized we were facing a goliath. There were many reasons why we thought the ACLU needed to be countered,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Top Ten List of Why the ACLU needs to be Stopped</strong><br />
	Crossposted from Stop The ACLU Stop The ACLU was started on February 9th, 2004. We started with high hopes, and we realized we were facing a goliath. There were many reasons why we thought the ACLU needed to be countered,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RightCross</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightCross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2005 06:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just happen to be a former student of Gordon Johnston and his wife, and personally aquainted with the family. Gordon Johnston is actually a conservative, not a Communist-Socialist Lib like the ACLU membership.

	Mr. Johnston has taught in schools on two continents (I was a student of his on the socialist continent many years ago) and he knows history and government. It seems that many americans (including conservatives) who have never lived outside of the US have the &quot;frog in boiling pot&quot; syndrome, and don&#039;t really see what is going on in our grand Land of the Free.

	Mr. Johnston hates Communism and Socialism with a passion. It is ironic the legal company he finds himself with at this juncture.

	A key issue here is disclosure.  According to the story, the &quot;business&quot; would not refund his seasonal ticket after he discovered that these searches are mandatory. So, aside from some media announcement, the question is whether the stadium is fully disclosing this new policy to everyone purchasing tickets.

	Another point - is it true that these searches are only from the waist up?  If that is the case, it is one of the most idiotic policies I, as a US military veteran, have ever heard of and I have to agree with the statement by the ACLU spokesperson that &quot;we are no safer, and a lot less free&quot;.  What&#039;s that? The &quot;Shoe-bomber&quot;? If this is the case, it is a token, incomplete, half-hearted attempt to protect while doubling the publics inconvenience (and turning up the heat on that pot that the frog is in).

	I believe a genuine, Constitutional Conservative would say (perhaps minus the expletives), &quot;To h*** with across the board searches of the public, to h*** with being PC, we are going to go by the evidence, we are going to profile, and we are going to go on the advance and hunt down every terrorist and use whatever force necessary to win this war&quot; - instead of going paranoid, suspecting every innocent neighbor and friend, searching even our own pockets for possible threats.

	I&#039;ve lived on three continents and I am amazed at the lack of ethical and constitutional knowledge and sense that exists now in America.  Sense - it&#039;s not so common anymore. There truly has been a &quot;Dumbing down of America&quot; even in the &quot;conservative Christian&quot; or &quot;religious right&quot; circles.

	If we are going to maintain a Land of the Free, it will take more than just defeating (or eliminating) the American Communist Legal Union(ACLU), the People for the American Way, and the NEA&#039;s (National Education Association and National Endowment for the Arts).   We have to educate people in right thinking, logic, morality, ethics, honor and integrity.
	We must both hate what is evil and love and promote what is good.

	So many, including among us conservatives, just latch onto a spokesman or hero and forget to think independently. Two radio talking heads say, &quot;I&#039;m a conservative before I am a Republican&quot;. I hope most conservatives think like that. The solutions are conservative, constitutional ones, not necessarily Republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just happen to be a former student of Gordon Johnston and his wife, and personally aquainted with the family. Gordon Johnston is actually a conservative, not a Communist-Socialist Lib like the ACLU membership.</p>
<p>	Mr. Johnston has taught in schools on two continents (I was a student of his on the socialist continent many years ago) and he knows history and government. It seems that many americans (including conservatives) who have never lived outside of the US have the &#8220;frog in boiling pot&#8221; syndrome, and don&#8217;t really see what is going on in our grand Land of the Free.</p>
<p>	Mr. Johnston hates Communism and Socialism with a passion. It is ironic the legal company he finds himself with at this juncture.</p>
<p>	A key issue here is disclosure.  According to the story, the &#8220;business&#8221; would not refund his seasonal ticket after he discovered that these searches are mandatory. So, aside from some media announcement, the question is whether the stadium is fully disclosing this new policy to everyone purchasing tickets.</p>
<p>	Another point &#8211; is it true that these searches are only from the waist up?  If that is the case, it is one of the most idiotic policies I, as a US military veteran, have ever heard of and I have to agree with the statement by the ACLU spokesperson that &#8220;we are no safer, and a lot less free&#8221;.  What&#8217;s that? The &#8220;Shoe-bomber&#8221;? If this is the case, it is a token, incomplete, half-hearted attempt to protect while doubling the publics inconvenience (and turning up the heat on that pot that the frog is in).</p>
<p>	I believe a genuine, Constitutional Conservative would say (perhaps minus the expletives), &#8220;To h*** with across the board searches of the public, to h*** with being PC, we are going to go by the evidence, we are going to profile, and we are going to go on the advance and hunt down every terrorist and use whatever force necessary to win this war&#8221; &#8211; instead of going paranoid, suspecting every innocent neighbor and friend, searching even our own pockets for possible threats.</p>
<p>	I&#8217;ve lived on three continents and I am amazed at the lack of ethical and constitutional knowledge and sense that exists now in America.  Sense &#8211; it&#8217;s not so common anymore. There truly has been a &#8220;Dumbing down of America&#8221; even in the &#8220;conservative Christian&#8221; or &#8220;religious right&#8221; circles.</p>
<p>	If we are going to maintain a Land of the Free, it will take more than just defeating (or eliminating) the American Communist Legal Union(ACLU), the People for the American Way, and the NEA&#8217;s (National Education Association and National Endowment for the Arts).   We have to educate people in right thinking, logic, morality, ethics, honor and integrity.<br />
	We must both hate what is evil and love and promote what is good.</p>
<p>	So many, including among us conservatives, just latch onto a spokesman or hero and forget to think independently. Two radio talking heads say, &#8220;I&#8217;m a conservative before I am a Republican&#8221;. I hope most conservatives think like that. The solutions are conservative, constitutional ones, not necessarily Republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Publius Rendezvous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius Rendezvous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hypocritical Controversies&lt;/strong&gt;
	It is sometimes unfathomable what is construed as a controversy in the MSM (&quot;Mainstream Media&quot;), particularly when such poisonous darts are lobbed at President Bush. It seems as though with each passing controversy, there is an attempt to out-do the ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hypocritical Controversies</strong><br />
	It is sometimes unfathomable what is construed as a controversy in the MSM (&#8221;Mainstream Media&#8221;), particularly when such poisonous darts are lobbed at President Bush. It seems as though with each passing controversy, there is an attempt to out-do the &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Basil's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basil's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 11:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Breakfast: 10/14/2005&lt;/strong&gt;
	Try one of these specials with your breakfast: The Blog Interviews: Submit your questions for phin from phin&#039;s blog and Heidi from Euphoric Reality. Risawn (Incoherent Incoherant Ramblings) gets orders to stop posting pictures. The real sarahk (mounta...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Breakfast: 10/14/2005</strong><br />
	Try one of these specials with your breakfast: The Blog Interviews: Submit your questions for phin from phin&#8217;s blog and Heidi from Euphoric Reality. Risawn (Incoherent Incoherant Ramblings) gets orders to stop posting pictures. The real sarahk (mounta&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Weekend Link Whorage Open Trackback Post Covered Fest Carnival Dish 3&lt;/strong&gt;
	I&#38;#8217;m feeling like crap this morning, so the Weekend Link Whorage Open Trackback Post Covered Fest Carnival Dish is up early.  Send your links!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Weekend Link Whorage Open Trackback Post Covered Fest Carnival Dish 3</strong><br />
	I&#38;#38;#8217;m feeling like crap this morning, so the Weekend Link Whorage Open Trackback Post Covered Fest Carnival Dish is up early.  Send your links!</p>
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