Petition To Stop Taxpayer Funding Of The ACLU

Posted on September 22, 2005

SIGN THE PETITION TO STOP TAXPAYER FUNDING OF THE ACLU
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39 Responses to “Petition To Stop Taxpayer Funding Of The ACLU”

  1. SeanS on September 23rd, 2005 7:49 am

    I’ve signed and I put a note about H.R. 2679 (the Public Expression of Religion Act).

  2. Sam on September 23rd, 2005 8:09 pm

    Just a little shout out to you, thanks for stopping by my site – do hope you come again.

    As for the petition, I don’t know if my word would amount to much being a Canadian, drat.

  3. Dethanial on September 24th, 2005 10:57 am

    It is nice to know that people of other countries might not like the ACLU either.

  4. Kris on September 24th, 2005 6:11 pm

    How do you propose to defund the ACLU but not conservative legal groups that also rely on the same government resources?! I don’t think that is going to fly.

    http://gopliberty.blogspot.com/2005/09/anti-war-rally-in-dc-speakers-label.html

  5. Jay on September 24th, 2005 6:19 pm

    Because the particular legislation amendment this is asking for would only affect establishment clause cases, in which conservative legal groups do not file. All groups, including the ACLU would still get paid for freedom of expression cases, and any other civil right case.

  6. freedom on September 25th, 2005 10:48 am

    You Might Be A Republican If…

    …you believe Bush’s tax cuts, a larger government, spending billions of dollars in wars and nation building have nothing to do with the deficit
    …you believe that lying about sex is impeachable, but it is a fine thing to lie about the reasons American boys and girls are dying and being dismembered in an illegal war
    …you believe spending money to build schools in America is a waste, but you support spending money to build schools in Iraq and Afghanistan
    …you believe spending $40 billion a year for the Department of Education is too much, but spending $87 billion to rebuild the country we just spent billions of dollars bombing is good foreign policy
    …you believe it’s patriotic and supportive of the military that Bush loves sending our troops into wars, and simultaneously cuts veteran’s benefits, military hazard pay and military family services.
    …you believe raising the minimum wage to give more money to the working poor will cause inflation, but giving billions of dollars to the richest 5% of Americans will boost the economy
    …you support the rights of a fetus, but if a baby is born to a poor person, you don’t believe the mother or the baby has the right to food, shelter or financial support
    …you call anyone with opinions to the left of George W. Bush a “communist”
    …you call yourself a “patriotic American,” but yet you display confederate flags to honor the people who rebelled against the USA
    …you believe it’s perfectly fine to send American jobs overseas for cheaper labor costs where children work for pennies a day in hellish conditions
    …you believe everyone who isn’t a Protestant Christian is going to Hell
    …you believe homosexuals should be tortured to death just for being homosexuals
    …you believe we deserved to be attacked on 9/11 because we have homosexuals, feminists and liberals in this country
    …you believe that liberals are a threat to humanity, but breathing dirty air, drinking dirty water, the polar ice caps melting and other ecological problems are good for you and good for business
    …you believe that AIDS is divine punishment for sinfulness, even when babies are born with it
    …you believe that people without scientific training are qualified to determine the content of biology texts
    …you believe that federal welfare weakens people, but corporate welfare strengthens business
    …you believe that global temperatures are affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth’s climate that occur in cycles exceeding 10,000 years, even though you don’t believe that the earth is that old
    …you believe that while you could never be homosexual yourself, other heterosexuals could easily be converted to homosexuality just by being in the presence of a homosexual
    …you believe that state courts can’t be trusted to punish businesses or examine ballots fairly, but you believe they can be trusted to administer the death penalty fairly
    …you believe that power wielded by business is good but power wielded by government or the people is dangerous
    …you believe that environmentalists don’t care about nature, but mining interests, power companies and major polluters do
    …you believe that youths won’t have sex if they’re never taught about birth control
    …you believe that the ACLU is bad, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the NRA is good, because it supports certain parts of the Constitution
    …you believe that inheritance doesn’t breed the same type of slothfulness that other forms of entitlement do
    …you believe that communism was not a viable system while simultaneously believing that only the “genius” of Ronald Reagan was able to defeat it
    …you believe that all Americans compete on a level playing field
    …you believe that Ken Starr is really a gentleman
    …you believe that there is some magical quality about unregulated markets that cause businesses to operate in the public’s best interests
    …you believe that Republicans that sell missiles to our enemies deserve to be on Mt. Rushmore
    …you believe that not examining ballots and appealing to judges is the best way to determine the outcome of an election
    …you believe in state-sponsored public prayer in schools, as long as the children aren’t praying to any gods other than your god
    …you believe that you love Jesus Christ, and that Jesus Christ loves you, and that Jesus Christ shares your hatred of liberals, the ACLU, feminists, environmentalists, AIDS victims, homosexuals, President Clinton, Hillary Clinton and the poor on welfare
    …you believe that socialism hasn’t worked anywhere, and that Europe doesn’t exist or is irrelevant
    …you believe that biology teachers are corrupting the morals of sixth-graders when they teach them the basics of human sexuality, but the Holy Bible, which is filled with sex and violence, is good reading for all children

  7. Aidan Maconachy on September 25th, 2005 1:36 pm

    Yes well …

    ACLU is a commie backwater :)

    Have a nice day y’all

  8. Martin Guerrero on September 25th, 2005 6:32 pm

    I visit the ACLU’s website and they defend porn as Kyle in South Park says “you bastards!”Can anyone do me a favor tell the ACLU to go f*ck themselves.

  9. Alden on September 26th, 2005 2:16 pm

    Wow, it is great to see that there are so many ignorant people out there. Thanks for helping to increase the number of ignorant people in our society. You are making it much easier for intelligent people like me to succeed. Keep up the uninformed work!!!

  10. pantheria on September 26th, 2005 6:51 pm

    ignorance sometimes is bliss but those that think they know it all as you may think … don’t really know a darn thing . It doesn’t take a Einstein to know when you need to speak up against the likes Of The ACLU. Heh !

  11. moonbat monitor on September 27th, 2005 12:19 am

    i’m puttin up a link in my sidebar to that petition.

    It’s on!

  12. Dorothy on September 28th, 2005 8:23 am

    The ACLU is not only an enemy of religion, but this group is an enemy of America.
    Thank you so much for making this site available.

  13. Ken Bingham on September 28th, 2005 6:46 pm

    Jay

    Thanks for the comments in my blog. It may interest you to know that before Rocky Anderson was Mayor of Salt Lake he was an ACLU lawyer.

  14. Ben Marvin on September 29th, 2005 12:22 am

    The ACLU is the number one enemy threatening decency. And we’re paying for it.

    Thanks for fighting the good fight.

  15. Jenn on September 30th, 2005 3:15 pm

    You bet I’ll sign it.

    I abhor the A.C.L.U. and anything that cries out for P.C.B.S.

    They only protect the rights of who they want to protect, not who they should protect.

  16. MariesTwoCents on October 1st, 2005 4:16 pm

    The ACLU is out to Destroy this Country and its up to us to stop them! I too am adding a link to this petition.

  17. Tommi Brandt on October 1st, 2005 6:29 pm

    I’d be honored to sign the petition!

  18. rj45mis on October 1st, 2005 7:28 pm

    I also gladly signed the petition. BTW, it seems that Freedom must be having a bad life. Well, it’s understandable with all those dastardly Republicans winning every election. Oh well, I guess the best way to change that is to attach to them every mean label and point out their unforgivable sins. This may get those Independents back into the dems column and get them elected again.

  19. Jimbo on October 2nd, 2005 4:32 pm

    Your right to post to this webpage is supported and defended by the ACLU.

    Your right to worship as you please is supported and defended by the ACLU.

    Your right to speak and publish and argue and scream and express you point of view is supported and defended by the American Civil Liberties Union.

    I am not a Convervative nor a Republican nor a Christian but I will defend your right to be all of these things because as an ACLU member it is my responsibility and duty and honor to do so.

    And contrary to this item contributions to the ACLU are not tax deductable.

  20. loboinok on October 2nd, 2005 8:40 pm

    Jimbo…

    “Your right to post to this webpage is”… Wholly dependent upon the wishes and benevolence of Jay and ‘the committee’ and has nothing to do with the ACLU!

    “Your right to worship as you please is”… Between God and man and has NOTHING to do with you, anyone else or especially…the ACLU!

    “Your right to speak and publish and argue and scream and express you point of view is”… Our Constitutional Right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and protected by the 2nd Amendment and NOTHING by what the ACLU does!

    “I am not a Convervative nor a Republican nor a Christian”… Not just anyone has the integrity, character or blessings to be these things…but now you have something to shoot for!

    “because as an ACLU member it is my responsibility”… By what authority? Who appointed the ACLU the arbitor and protector of American’s constitutional rights?

  21. Dethanial on October 2nd, 2005 10:30 pm

    Jimbo is stupid when he says the ACLU defends my right to worship freely. They are anti christian and are hendering me from worshiping freely. Any reference to the ACLU defending our rights to freedom of religion should be attached with every means possible. They are were started by a communist, and still have communist goals. Jimbo should research before posting something to this site.

  22. Jimbo on October 3rd, 2005 12:50 pm

    Loboinok:

    “Your right to post to this webpage is… Wholly dependent upon the wishes and benevolence of Jay and ‘the committee’ and has nothing to do with the ACLU!”

    Repressive governments all over the world routinely silence voices voices of dissent. The ACLU fights to ensure that the US Government does not have or wield this power. If the US Government attempted to shut down this website based simply on its content the ACLU would defend your right to express this opinion. They have defended many, many groups whose aims are completely counter to the ACLU’s philosophy simply because of the principal involved.

    “Your right to worship as you please is… Between God and man and has NOTHING to do with you, anyone else or especially…the ACLU!”

    You are absolutely correct, how or who or what you worship is none of my or the ACLU’s business. Your RIGHT to decide for yourself how or who or what you worship IS my business because it affects me also. If your right to worship freely is threatened by the government then mine is also. The ACLU defends the rights of all Americans worship how they please without undue government interference.

    “Our Constitutional Right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution and protected by the 2nd Amendment and NOTHING by what the ACLU does!”

    The Constitution is a piece of paper. The willingness to go to court and stand up to the government on matters of individual rights guarantee these freedoms.

    “because as an ACLU member it is my responsibility… By what authority? Who appointed the ACLU the arbiter and protector of American’s constitutional rights?”

    I am the arbiter of MY rights. My defense of your right to express you point of view benefits my right to express my point of view.

    Dethaniel:

    The ACLU has defended many Christian and Conservative groups. They have defended the rights of anti-abortion activists to express their message, of Baptist ministers to preach on the streets, and in defense of churches facing eviction by city governments.

    They have succeeded in pressuring local governments to allow baptisms on public property. They have defended the rights of student to distribute Christian literature at school. Working together with the Rev. Jerry Falwell the ACLU of Virginia convinced a federal judge to strike down a provision of the Virginia Constitution that bans religious organizations from incorporating.

    The have also fought against some Christian groups who sought to use the Government to suppress other religious views.

    This doesn’t make the ACLU “anti-Christian”; it makes them pro individual rights.

    Finally:

    Donations to the ACLU are NOT TAX DEDUCTABLE. The ACLU is WHOLLY supported by donations and does NOT take taxpayer money in any manner way shape or form.

  23. Jay on October 3rd, 2005 12:56 pm

    The ACLU is rewarded attorney’s fees through an amendment in the Civil Rights Act every time it wins. This money comes from the taxpayer’s pocket book. We are asking for this amendment to be adjusted so that it does not apply to Establisment Clause cases. Please do not come in here acting like you know everything until you actually go read the petition.

  24. Jimbo on October 3rd, 2005 1:45 pm

    The law allows (but does not require) the courts to award attorney’s fees to the prevailing party, whichever side wins.

    This is hardly “taxpayer funding” of the ACLU as you assert.

  25. loboinok on October 3rd, 2005 5:29 pm

    Jimbo

    “If the US Government attempted to shut down this website based simply on its content the ACLU would defend your right to express this opinion.”

    What you seem to fail to recognize is… I don’t care what the ACLU would or would not do!

    “Your RIGHT to decide for yourself how or who or what you worship IS my business because it affects me also.”

    WRONG! How,what or who I worship is an individual right, not collective.
    It has no affect on you in any way, shape or form.
    Since it is an ‘unalienable right’, the Government can neither grant it nor take it. I will exercise it and enjoy it and I WILL defend it.

    My rights are GOD GIVEN rights! What the Government says or does concerning them, means absolutely nothing to me.
    What the ACLU says or does concerning them, means absolutely nothing to me.
    If YOU choose to hand your rights over to a third party for safe keeping, do it! I choose not to.

    “The willingness to go to court and stand up to the government on matters of individual rights guarantee these freedoms.”

    The 2nd Amendment guarantee these freedoms as well… not to mention our military stationed in Iraq and all over the world. I have no need or use for the ACLU or any other Solialist/Communist org. to represent me.

  26. Jimbo on October 4th, 2005 1:41 pm

    loboinok:

    I personally don’t care what your particular religious beliefs are. Given your previous comments I’m sure they would probably be quite offensive to believers in civil liberties.

    Regardless, fortunately for you and your right to express these beliefs that doesn’t matter to the ACLU. And whatever you believe is the genesis of your right to worship as you please, like the right to life itself this can be taken away by the state by force – and often is.

    It’s unfortunate that you benefit from the defense of rights that you actively seek to deny others, but that’s obviously my problem and not yours.

    It is also ironic, to say the least, that you accuse the ACLU of being “Solialist/Communist” when the model you espouse is exactly the collectivist Stalinist type you purport to despise – which makes the organization itself necessary in the first place.

  27. MariesTwoCents on October 4th, 2005 5:26 pm

    The ACLU does NOT have the right to put my son’s life in more jeopardy serving in Iraq than it already is. Relaeasing more pictures of the same from Abu Grhaib Prison is a waste of time and will harm our troops more than help them. If you ACLU whackos find the need to have these pictures shown repeatedly about the same old crap do it after we are out of Iraq or the War on Terrorism is over. I dont want my son to die for a misguided mistake the ACLU has once again made and been granted by a federal judge (A Clinton appointed Federal Judge I might add)helping them along. I wont let my son die for the Morons at the ACLU!!!

  28. MariesTwoCents on October 4th, 2005 5:31 pm

    Oh and to you ACLU whakos,
    MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA UNDER GOD!!!! I WANT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS PUT BACK IN THE COURTHOUSE TOO!
    Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, its better than what you people have been smoking apparently!!!

  29. Jimbo on October 4th, 2005 6:02 pm

    MariesTwoCents:

    Instead of worrying about exposing atrocites committed by US troops perhaps we should be more concerned about preventing these crimes from happening in the first place so there would be no pictures to show.

    Your President and the military chain of command approved and sanctioned these acts and they bear responsibility for any fallout they cause.

  30. Deborah Acuff on October 7th, 2005 10:50 am

    Just do it.

  31. Jimbo on October 9th, 2005 9:31 pm

    The difference between what “we” believe and what totalitarian governerments practice is embodied in the Constitution of the United States.

    To hate the ACLU because they defend the rights of minorites and non-Christians is the height of anti-American invective.

  32. Wayne on October 11th, 2005 3:57 pm

    Yes, we all know how much the ACLU “helps” young people with their “drug problem.”

  33. Wayne on October 11th, 2005 3:58 pm

    The link didn’t come through, it was http://www.searclub.com/?page=news-article&id=1671

  34. Deb Leonard on October 12th, 2005 12:33 pm

    The ACLU is anti American.

  35. Dethanial on October 13th, 2005 11:36 pm

    The ACLU is against any thing decent.

  36. Jean on October 15th, 2005 1:45 pm

    You spelled atheist wrong.

    also, look up “Liberalism” in any dictionary.

    luv,
    duv

  37. Dethanial on October 17th, 2005 11:22 pm

    Let’s run a contest for the best name for the extremely misinformed Jimbo.

  38. Dethanial on October 17th, 2005 11:22 pm

    Let’s run a contest for the best name for the extremely misinformed Jimbo.

  39. Jimbo on October 18th, 2005 11:13 pm

    Misinformed how exactly? Please explain.