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	<title>Comments on: Calling The ACLU</title>
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	<description>Beating Them With Their Own Sickle And Hammer</description>
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		<title>By: third world county &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; Stop the ACLU</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33750</link>
		<dc:creator>third world county &#38;#38;#187; Blog Archive &#38;#38;#187; Stop the ACLU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#38;#8217;t think that any other ACLU stance evokes more anger from me, than this one. I mean, how sick can you get? Do these people not have a conscience at all, or are they just plain EVIL? How can one argue this sick, twisted view in the name of &#38;#8220;protecting civil liberties?&#38;#8221; Please, some liberal out there that loves defending this evil organization&#38;#8230;explain this to us. No wonder the ACLU doesn&#38;#8217;t want the public to have access to its policy guide! Since the ACLU thinks that child pornography should be legal, it is not surprising to read that it is against making it a felony to advertise, sell, purchase, barter, exchange, give, or receive child pornography. It is particularly distressed about the prohibition on advertisement, arguing that &#38;#8220;the law cannot expect every publisher to decode every advertisment for some hidden and sinister meaning,&#38;#8221; as if it took a technician-armed with a special decoding device-to ferret out pictures of children ludely exhibiting their genitals. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I don&#38;#38;#8217;t think that any other ACLU stance evokes more anger from me, than this one. I mean, how sick can you get? Do these people not have a conscience at all, or are they just plain EVIL? How can one argue this sick, twisted view in the name of &#38;#38;#8220;protecting civil liberties?&#38;#38;#8221; Please, some liberal out there that loves defending this evil organization&#38;#38;#8230;explain this to us. No wonder the ACLU doesn&#38;#38;#8217;t want the public to have access to its policy guide! Since the ACLU thinks that child pornography should be legal, it is not surprising to read that it is against making it a felony to advertise, sell, purchase, barter, exchange, give, or receive child pornography. It is particularly distressed about the prohibition on advertisement, arguing that &#38;#38;#8220;the law cannot expect every publisher to decode every advertisment for some hidden and sinister meaning,&#38;#38;#8221; as if it took a technician-armed with a special decoding device-to ferret out pictures of children ludely exhibiting their genitals. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jered</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I just called the ACLU and got through to one lady.  She was very nice, and helpfull.  However she said that she could not give me the policy guide because, A-it was to big (2000 pages), B-It was for internal use only &quot;we are not hiding it from the public though&quot;.  She did though give me her email so I could ask her questions about specific policies.  I wanted it so I could do a research paper of religious freedom.  She said she might be able to email me the section of religious freedom.  I think I might not get much, but who knows???
	--Jered</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I just called the ACLU and got through to one lady.  She was very nice, and helpfull.  However she said that she could not give me the policy guide because, A-it was to big (2000 pages), B-It was for internal use only &#8220;we are not hiding it from the public though&#8221;.  She did though give me her email so I could ask her questions about specific policies.  I wanted it so I could do a research paper of religious freedom.  She said she might be able to email me the section of religious freedom.  I think I might not get much, but who knows???<br />
	&#8211;Jered</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Thinking</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33748</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A Letter To ACLU Supporters&lt;/strong&gt;
	Hello, this is Jay from Stop The ACLU. Chris has invited me to guest post here sometimes. Thought I would start this out with this post, because it is a nice short summary of why I am against the ACLU....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>A Letter To ACLU Supporters</strong><br />
	Hello, this is Jay from Stop The ACLU. Chris has invited me to guest post here sometimes. Thought I would start this out with this post, because it is a nice short summary of why I am against the ACLU&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Esa Isotupa</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33747</link>
		<dc:creator>Esa Isotupa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;total annihilation world domination
	&lt;/strong&gt;
	Stop the ACLU - Beatin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>total annihilation world domination<br />
	</strong><br />
	Stop the ACLU &#8211; Beatin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hiking Vacation</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33746</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiking Vacation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tropical Vacation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tropical Vacation</p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Covered Strawberry</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33745</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Covered Strawberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gourmet Chocolate</description>
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		<title>By: Cuyahoga Community College</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33744</link>
		<dc:creator>Cuyahoga Community College</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2005 07:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community College</description>
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		<title>By: thanks</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33743</link>
		<dc:creator>thanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 05:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good blog</description>
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		<title>By: nobody.really</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33742</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody.really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 16:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“[T]he ACLU is being very hypocritical here. They strictly oppose all forms of government secrecy....”

	You think the ACLU is a government?  No wonder you’re upset.

	The ACLU is a private organization.  The ACLU believes in, among other things, maintaining the distinction between public and private spheres.  The ACLU regularly defends the rights of privacy against government intrusion, including the rights of private organizations.  The ACLU defends the rights of individuals against government surveillance of their religious and political affiliations, their money, and their medical records, among other things.

	So there is no hypocrisy in the ACLU maintaining its right not to disclose private documents.  That said, have you looked at their web site?  Honestly, there’s a lot of stuff on it, and a search engine to help you sift through it.

	It is encouraging to see so many people concerned about secrecy, however.  I’m sure you share my concern about the White House’s refusal to talk about their meetings with lobbyists in crafting the current energy bill.  And the fact that the Pentagon is withholding information about the Abu Graibe prison situation, in violation of court orders.  And the fact that Bush refused to speak on the record with the 9/11 investigators, and insisted on having Cheney at his side the whole time.  But if we maintain our vigilance, I am hopeful that the government will relent eventually.  The right of the people to control their government cannot be thwarted forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“[T]he ACLU is being very hypocritical here. They strictly oppose all forms of government secrecy&#8230;.”</p>
<p>	You think the ACLU is a government?  No wonder you’re upset.</p>
<p>	The ACLU is a private organization.  The ACLU believes in, among other things, maintaining the distinction between public and private spheres.  The ACLU regularly defends the rights of privacy against government intrusion, including the rights of private organizations.  The ACLU defends the rights of individuals against government surveillance of their religious and political affiliations, their money, and their medical records, among other things.</p>
<p>	So there is no hypocrisy in the ACLU maintaining its right not to disclose private documents.  That said, have you looked at their web site?  Honestly, there’s a lot of stuff on it, and a search engine to help you sift through it.</p>
<p>	It is encouraging to see so many people concerned about secrecy, however.  I’m sure you share my concern about the White House’s refusal to talk about their meetings with lobbyists in crafting the current energy bill.  And the fact that the Pentagon is withholding information about the Abu Graibe prison situation, in violation of court orders.  And the fact that Bush refused to speak on the record with the 9/11 investigators, and insisted on having Cheney at his side the whole time.  But if we maintain our vigilance, I am hopeful that the government will relent eventually.  The right of the people to control their government cannot be thwarted forever.</p>
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		<title>By: jcrue</title>
		<link>http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2005/07/23/calling-the-aclu/comment-page-1/#comment-33741</link>
		<dc:creator>jcrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO!!!!!</p>
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